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By Liam Stack
Liam Stack, who has reported from the Middle East on and off for two decades, was part of the team that covered the war in Gaza for The Times.
Feb. 5, 2025
https://archive.ph/S2pSi
Here Are 34 Polls That Show A Ceasefire & Weapons Embargo Help Kamala Win
Let’s say the 1.8% difference was significant. Why did the Democratic Party run away from that voter block?
Is your issue with what the Uncommitted campaign wanted? A weapons embargo to make Israel take the ceasefire? (The one the US put forward as an Israeli proposal) You’re issue was with how the campaign was run? Despite them going through every proper channel?
They knew how popular a ceasefire and weapons embargo was. Total uncommitted in the Primary was 706,591 (Which may have been undercounted). On average, general turnout is twice that of primary turnout.
They knew an Arms Embargo was required by US and International Law.
Yet we still saw over a Year of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars and the campaign continued to alienate voters
They knew it was popular. They knew it was required by international law. They knew how many they risked to lose by continuing to violate the law against public sentiment. Those chose to risk that many votes when campaigning against a fascist. That’s not the behavior of a party that wants to win.
Read my comment in context with the OP. I’m not here talking about where Democrats did what and how. I’m saying that the people crying about Gaza after helping get Trump elected in the face of an obvious choice to NOT have Trump in office can keep on crying about it, because this is what they brought on themselves.
If you were previously one of these people supporting that movement, you can do whatever mental gymnastics you want to say it wasn’t your fault, but you’ll be wrong all day. Anyone supporting not voting for Harris now responsible for all of what is happening now, and will happen as a result.
Got it, your not here to talk about the actual problem with the campaign. You just want to focus your anger on those people torn most by having their family members and friends in Gaza being blown up with American weapons and support. People who were forced into the position to either vote for the party that was enthusiastically funding the bombing of their loved ones, with the only reason why being that the other guy will bomb them more, or protest vote against the administration that greenlit the death of their loved ones.
No analysis of how the Democratic Campaign lost those votes, no understanding of the position Palestinian Americans were put in. Just anger towards people who got scammed with the glimmer of hope of a ceasefire during an ongoing genocide. One only possible because the Democratic Campaign refused to pivot, despite domestic and international law, despite public sentiment, despite how much that pivot would have helped them win against the opposition.
Got it. Enjoy the view up there inbetween punching down
Yes. I’m replying to the context of the post, and you came in with some tertiary argument that you decided to broach yourself.
Palestinian Americans are not the people who “essentially got Trump into office”
Anyone who didn’t vote for Harris is.
Which is Palestinian Americans, where you said
Which is saying Palestinian Americans are the people who essentially got Trump into office
Like I said