• @[email protected]
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    -17 hours ago

    They did enable the greater evil, but it was voters who ultimately put them in office, not Democrats. The buck stops with the voters. Or it did - they made sure it won’t any more.

    • archomrade [he/him]
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      75 hours ago

      it was voters who ultimately put them in office

      Guess I’ll just repeat myself:

      “they still need millions of people to go to the booth and make that choice, and nobody has more control over voter enthusiasm than the democrats themselves”

      If you want to play games with abstracting agency away from the people who had control of the entire situation, go nuts. But not only did the democrats have every opportunity to make the case for themselves, but they also dug the grave they’re now laying in by building their platform around AIPAC money (and large corporate donors) to begin with.

      The democrats simply cannot win with the political machine they’ve constructed anymore.

      • @DarkFuture
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        03 hours ago

        The democrats simply cannot win with the political machine they’ve constructed anymore.

        Now that’s a statement I can agree with. In America political parties have to lie through their teeth and foment fear to win elections. Because Americans are easily manipulated.

        Because they showed up to this campaign with receipts of their accomplishments and focused on talking policy and avoiding blatant propaganda and it clearly didn’t work. Meanwhile, a guy who openly admitted he didn’t have plans and told everyone immigrants were eating people’s pets got to become the most powerful figure on the planet.

        Americans are dumb. They must be lied to. Democrats should start doing that. Hell, they should have just lied that they’d break ties with Israel so they could win.

        • archomrade [he/him]
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          11 hour ago

          Because they showed up to this campaign with receipts of their accomplishments and focused on talking policy and avoiding blatant propaganda and it clearly didn’t work.

          Lmao, is that what they did?

          Hell, they should have just lied that they’d break ties with Israel so they could win.

          If you’re gonna emulate what the republicans are doing, why not say ‘fuck the parliamentarian’ and just plow through actual, substantial reforms? Why pick the deception part and not the complete disregard for the rules in service of achieving your agenda part?

      • @Dkarma
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        -33 hours ago

        Congratulations on helping trump win. You’re partially responsible when Gaza goes bye bye. Not the Dems.

        • archomrade [he/him]
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          32 hours ago

          Congratulations on helping trump win.

          If all it took for trump to win was a handful of internet weirdos to loudly oppose an active genocide then maybe the democrats were never going to win in the first place.

        • @[email protected]
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          33 hours ago

          Congratulations on helping Trump win even more by defending the Democrat’s incompetence and distracting the fight away from the actual fascist in the White House. Go ahead and continue attacking the left and the Muslim base. I’m sure that’ll help slow down Trump’s attack on your democracy.

        • @[email protected]
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          13 hours ago

          You realize the person you’re responding to LITERALLY believes the same about you, right?

          That’s their entire point.

          Throwing a not-that-pithy “This is all your fault” won’t even phase them. Would it phase you if they did it to you?