I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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    So you don’t think her voice had any power? If no, that brings into question why she was picked for the role at all. And it’s not “counterfactual” to say that the deals she was making was for pausing the genocide as opposed to stopping.

    • @ChonkyOwlbear
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      So you don’t think her voice had any power?

      Can you think of a time a VP came out and directly contradicted their President’s foreign policy?

      And it’s not “counterfactual” to say that the deals she was making was for pausing the genocide as opposed to stopping.

      Yes, that is counterfactual. Stopping the war was always the ultimate goal. Pauses were just the compromise.

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        Can you think of a time a VP came out and directly contradicted their President’s foreign policy?

        Is that a good thing? Is that acceptable even when it includes standing by genocide? But when she’s running her own campaign seems an excellent time to distinguish herself from her predecessor. Especially when she got that spot because polling showed Biden couldn’t win. Even more when she’s specifically asked what she’d have done differently per my source from earlier.

        Yes, that is counterfactual. Stopping the war was always the ultimate goal. Pauses were just the compromise.

        1. The war will not stop as long as both exist. The past 75 years of conflict have shown that. The goal as stated was only ever going to end with pauses.

        2. That’s still compromising with and defending the genociders. This evergreen meme

        Also this quote feels relevant

        • @ChonkyOwlbear
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          Is that a good thing?

          It just is. It’s an unspoken restriction of her job. Nobody gets elevated to that position unless they unequivocally back their boss.

          The war will not stop as long as both exist.

          So you’re in favor of genocide, but just mad at which side is losing.