• @[email protected]
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    171 day ago

    Hmm, in Ayn Rand’s fantasy worlds, the engineers would be the ones who own the machines and thus reap the benefits. So I think the proper criticism there would be that that’s not how it works in the real world, and thus is not a good basis for one’s philosophy.

    • @NateNate60
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      620 hours ago

      I wonder if there’s a term in political science for an ideology where the people who create and operate the means of production should also own and enjoy the benefits from it.

      • @[email protected]
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        120 hours ago

        That sounds like it could have something to it. But I wonder - how would the people seize the means of production?

        • @trolololol
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          216 hours ago

          What if they were to start by accumulating the heads of the traditional gold hoarders in a basket, and their respective bodies in a pile near it?

    • @marcos
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      If only people would stop pretending those fantasy words had any resemblance to reality.

      Honestly, society would be much better if marxists, anarchists, and etc just converted into delusional Star Wars fans or something like that.

      • @[email protected]
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        214 hours ago

        Some parts of the world went 60 years in the 20th century without capitalists. Maybe not such a wild world, right? We just can do a bit better next time

        • @marcos
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          Where is that “it’s real communism if” flowchart with the “do the workers own the means of production” test? It’s needed here.

          • @[email protected]
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            27 hours ago

            So, passing a semantics test is what’s needed to call oneself communist and to try to improve the lives of everyone?

            • @marcos
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              140 minutes ago

              “People owning the means of production” versus “the State owning everything and dictating the life of everybody” is a semantics test now?

              • @[email protected]
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                120 minutes ago

                I’d rather have a democratic state controlling the means of production for the most part than anarchosyndicalism. You don’t see me crying abour “anarkiddies” in every post minimally related to leftism. Turn off the red scare brain, we have literal fascists in our governments.

                • @marcos
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                  113 minutes ago

                  Running fully into fan-fiction territory, isn’t you?

                  When you find one of those that is also democratic, yeah, we can discuss the details.

        • @marcos
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          023 hours ago

          Yes, Marx was the one that discovered that people sharing ideas is important for society!

          Also, can I interest you on Andor? It’s a really good TV show.