The point was, most people who voted Republican didn’t want those things either.
Trump is literally getting positive poll numbers right now because of his immigration policies. You’re just assuming things and you’re not actually bothering to check.
They haven’t even DONE them yet before you call them the enemy. But go ahead, keep losing the electorate. Stop being zealots and come back down to earth.
News flash, you aren’t arguing with Rush Limbaugh on the internet.
I’m not Rush Limbaugh, the next guy isn’t Rush Limbaugh…
AGAIN - this is NOT for people who have already chosen a “side”. I am talking about people who regularly flip between dem and republican. If voting R once EVER is enough for them to be written off forever…then that’s a losing strategy. If that’s your outlook on things, and you continue - then just understand that you should also be okay with losing those people as voters and shifting this country ever more toward the right because you can’t be calm and composed.
I mean, if they voted for republicans, they are villains in so far as one can be a villain.
But still for the sake of argument, what exactly do you count as villainization? Are we talking saying mean words or being critical of republican voters online? Are we talking about punching Nazis? Are we talking about cutting off friends and family from our personal lives for being politically repugnant?
If its the first thing, poor babies got their feelings hurt. Taking criticism or being shamed is not a reason to become worse. Thing is, the vast majority of vocal republican voters don’t even seem to indicate that they care anyway. They seem to embrace being considered bad people.
If its the second thing, maybe don’t wear Nazi uniforms, zieg heil, or draw swastikas on shit and they wont get punched. You know, stop being Nazis.
If its the final thing, we don’t owe these people our personal time. I’ve cut off my dad as much as I feasibly can and hes only a bandwagon republican rather than full MAGA. There is no chance in hell I’ll ever convince him to not vote republican. Fuck him, I don’t care if hes sad he doesn’t get to see me. Maybe he shouldn’t support fascists.
Damn okay - so no path to redemption in your book. I voted for a republican a long time go - so I’m a nazi now apparently. Well, since there’s no path to redemption, I guess I might as well continue voting for them, since voting Dem isn’t going to absolve me of anything.
(/s on my part obviously; but people seriously think this way)
I mean, if they voted for republicans, they are villains in so far as one can be a villain.
Sure, *you* didn’t in this particular scenario - but you got awfully close. That’s the point I’m making. The loud, extremist voices driving off otherwise reasonable people.
I’m ON your side. But you’re not on mine. Look at the overwhelming response here with the immediately pegging me into a “both sides” fallacy and then everyone attempting to argue me down as if that was my argument in the first place.
It’s straight up unreasonable - I’m one of the very few who will tolerate it to get my point across. Everyone else will leave much faster, and then just vote against you.
If someone is petty enough to vote for an evil that would make the earth a significantly worse place because they had strangers being mean to them online… they’re evil.
If enough people are like that, those dumb “Giant Comet 2024” bumper stickers have a point.
Further, it hardly matters anymore. Enough people were seemingly that petty, and now we might not even get another election for voting to even matter. Hell, it might barely matter anyway even if we somehow manage to still have elections, climate change is going to get significantly worse and Trump’s admin is going to if anything accelerate that.
So you’re saying that most people who voted for people who have made it clear they want to take away people’s human rights, don’t want those human rights to be taken away?
That’s like hearing someone say “if I had a hammer, I’d love to start bashing people I didn’t like with it, also eggs are expensive” and the guy next to him says “don’t give that guy a hammer, he means it” and still giving them a hammer because you agree that eggs are expensive and the other guy didn’t say anything about eggs.
So you’re saying that most people who voted for people who have made it clear they want to take away people’s human rights, don’t want those human rights to be taken away?
Okay, it’s clear logic isn’t your strong point…nevermind. No idea why I fucking try.
The point was, most people who voted Republican didn’t want those things either. But your villianization of them is what drove them that way.
Trump is literally getting positive poll numbers right now because of his immigration policies. You’re just assuming things and you’re not actually bothering to check.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-approval-opinion-poll-2025-2-9/
If they don’t want to be villainized for those things they should stop doing them.
It’s like someone punching you in the face and then punching you harder when you ask them to stop.
They haven’t even DONE them yet before you call them the enemy. But go ahead, keep losing the electorate. Stop being zealots and come back down to earth.
I’m sorry, but which side has turned insulting and demeaning the other side into a multi billion dollar industry?
I still remember listening to Rush Limbaugh call my parents traitors for being Democrats way back in the 90s.
So GTFO with the “they haven’t done anything.”
News flash, you aren’t arguing with Rush Limbaugh on the internet.
I’m not Rush Limbaugh, the next guy isn’t Rush Limbaugh…
AGAIN - this is NOT for people who have already chosen a “side”. I am talking about people who regularly flip between dem and republican. If voting R once EVER is enough for them to be written off forever…then that’s a losing strategy. If that’s your outlook on things, and you continue - then just understand that you should also be okay with losing those people as voters and shifting this country ever more toward the right because you can’t be calm and composed.
You sound like you feel really guilty
I mean, if they voted for republicans, they are villains in so far as one can be a villain.
But still for the sake of argument, what exactly do you count as villainization? Are we talking saying mean words or being critical of republican voters online? Are we talking about punching Nazis? Are we talking about cutting off friends and family from our personal lives for being politically repugnant?
If its the first thing, poor babies got their feelings hurt. Taking criticism or being shamed is not a reason to become worse. Thing is, the vast majority of vocal republican voters don’t even seem to indicate that they care anyway. They seem to embrace being considered bad people.
If its the second thing, maybe don’t wear Nazi uniforms, zieg heil, or draw swastikas on shit and they wont get punched. You know, stop being Nazis.
If its the final thing, we don’t owe these people our personal time. I’ve cut off my dad as much as I feasibly can and hes only a bandwagon republican rather than full MAGA. There is no chance in hell I’ll ever convince him to not vote republican. Fuck him, I don’t care if hes sad he doesn’t get to see me. Maybe he shouldn’t support fascists.
Damn okay - so no path to redemption in your book. I voted for a republican a long time go - so I’m a nazi now apparently. Well, since there’s no path to redemption, I guess I might as well continue voting for them, since voting Dem isn’t going to absolve me of anything.
(/s on my part obviously; but people seriously think this way)
Did I say you were Nazi?
Also I specified a starting point to redemption: Not voting republican.
Sure, *you* didn’t in this particular scenario - but you got awfully close. That’s the point I’m making. The loud, extremist voices driving off otherwise reasonable people.
I’m ON your side. But you’re not on mine. Look at the overwhelming response here with the immediately pegging me into a “both sides” fallacy and then everyone attempting to argue me down as if that was my argument in the first place.
It’s straight up unreasonable - I’m one of the very few who will tolerate it to get my point across. Everyone else will leave much faster, and then just vote against you.
If someone is petty enough to vote for an evil that would make the earth a significantly worse place because they had strangers being mean to them online… they’re evil.
If enough people are like that, those dumb “Giant Comet 2024” bumper stickers have a point.
Further, it hardly matters anymore. Enough people were seemingly that petty, and now we might not even get another election for voting to even matter. Hell, it might barely matter anyway even if we somehow manage to still have elections, climate change is going to get significantly worse and Trump’s admin is going to if anything accelerate that.
This is a fucking moronic take.
So you’re saying that most people who voted for people who have made it clear they want to take away people’s human rights, don’t want those human rights to be taken away?
That’s like hearing someone say “if I had a hammer, I’d love to start bashing people I didn’t like with it, also eggs are expensive” and the guy next to him says “don’t give that guy a hammer, he means it” and still giving them a hammer because you agree that eggs are expensive and the other guy didn’t say anything about eggs.
Okay, it’s clear logic isn’t your strong point…nevermind. No idea why I fucking try.