cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/25427659

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  • FundMECFSEnglish
    3•6 hours ago

    Would you not consider them to be ancom? (I can’t tell myself)

    • poVoqEnglish
      4•6 hours ago

      No, more like reasonable anarcho-individualists.

      • FundMECFSEnglish
        1•5 hours ago

        Really? I haven’t ventured too much there but I always assumed they were libertarian socialist type anarchism.

        • poVoqEnglish
          2•5 hours ago

          “Libertarian socialism” is quite a bit broader than “ancom” and there are plenty of anarcho-individualists that out of individualist considerations consider themselves socialists.

          Lets take piracy as an example:

          An ancom would likely argue that this is bad under the current circumstances and that the creators should be fairly compensated or rather have their needs covered so that they are free to make stuff. However they would likely also concede that piracy from large corporations would be somewhat ok as large privately owned corporations are a bad thing and thus don’t deserve any protection.

          An anarcho-individualist would be likely in favour of piracy even under the current circumstances as it usually benefits the person pirating much more than it hurts the people working on the digital media, but maybe concede that you shouldn’t do it for small individual creators trying to make a living.

          So you see that the final outcome isn’t that different, but an ancom would likely shy away from openly promoting piracy of digital media.

          • @[email protected]English
            2•2 hours ago

            I’m ancom and one of the main admins for db0 is more anarcho-individualist based on this example.

            I don’t care about pirating Hollywood blockbusters, I do care about generative AI stealing individual creators work with no compensation to ultimately put out garbage disguised as “art”.

            That’s the big difference between myself and the admins of db0 is they’re pro AI and don’t believe at all in intellectual property even for individuals.

            But I’m still there because it’s a dope instance and we can agree to disagree.

          • FundMECFSEnglish
            1•5 hours ago

            Wouldn’t an ancom not believe in ownership — and therefore think piracy is not inherently immoral? Obviously they believe in community distribution and mutual aid so they would believe that if people involved with the creation of those media were struggling they would help those people, but not necessarily through the proxy of buying the movie but through general mutual aid.

            • poVoqEnglish
              2•5 hours ago

              Hence my “under current circumstances” where people do need to make a living under capitalist conditions. But indeed neither would consider it immoral in terms of ownership, especially since digital media has a duplication cost near zero.

              • FundMECFSEnglish
                1•4 hours ago

                Interesting.

                so you’re basically saying an example of dbzer0 leaning more individualist is that they aren’t explicit enough about encouraging people to buy indie films made by struggling artists? (instead of pirating)

                • poVoqEnglish
                  1•4 hours ago

                  Yes that would be a reasonable summary.