• @[email protected]
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    108 hours ago

    Which phone brand is recommendable at the moment? Fairphone uses android, which can hardly be trusted.

    • @asdfasdfasdf
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      6 hours ago

      Google Pixel + GrapheneOS

      Also, if you think Apple’s completely closed source software is more trustworthy than Google’s mostly open source software… LOL

      • @ArtVandelay
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        120 minutes ago

        Do things like banking and MFA apps work? I have to have Duo for work

      • @[email protected]
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        22 hours ago

        Well, the point is I do not trust either. I am on apple now, but my experience with android is that there are apps you cannot uninstall.

        On the other hand I have once tried a custom rom, but it was not a great experience. I do think I will need to try this again.

        • @asdfasdfasdf
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          220 minutes ago

          Custom ROMs are all different. Some suck, some don’t. I’ve heard very good things about Graphene. You can even install it from the web in a couple clicks.

      • Chloé 🥕
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        75 hours ago

        also, idk how true this is, but ive seen that google sells pixels at a loss when they’re on sale (they expect to make back the money by spying on you)

        so if you were to get a pixel while it’s on sale and install grapheneos on it, not only would you get a nice phone with a secure os, but you’d do so while costing google money. win win win!

    • @Screen_Shatter
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      44 hours ago

      Fairphone uses their own custom OS to degoogle things and help ensure privacy. I dont think its perfect but its about as good as it gets. Otherwise you can buy a google phone and degoogle it with Graphene

      • @[email protected]
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        44 hours ago

        Fairphone uses their own custom OS to degoogle things and help ensure privacy

        no they don’t. the default Fairphone OS runs stock Android with all Google apps. there are degoogled custom ROMs available, and you can buy some models with it preinstalled, but those are managed by third party resellers/partners.

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      Yeah, the most “free” option is probably android custom ROMs (anything based on lineageos, I suppose).

      There are alternatives that are slowly building up, such as postmarketos, but it’s not production ready.

      I think KaiOS was a thing for a while, and it’s based on FirefoxOS. But you would have to ditch the confort of a real smartphone and I’m not sure it’s still active?

      EDIT : KaiOS is indeed maintained BUT it is still based on Android (probably with less higher level components)

    • @OrganicMustard
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      118 hours ago

      You can install CalyxOS or other custom ROM

      • @[email protected]
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        or CalyxOS if you’re not too fond of knockoff iOS UI. I’ve been using Calyx on my FP4 for a while now, works like a charm.