As we see more and more bots on Lemmy World every day, it’s about time we publish a set of rules for bots and bot-owners.
So here goes:
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Bots shall not be used for any kind of advertising.
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The bot accounts must be clearly marked as a bot. Both in the bio and by marking the account as a bot.
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The owner of the bot and contact details must be mentioned in the bot’s bio.
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Bots are only allowed to post in communities they have the explicit permission from the community’s owners to do so.
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Bots from other instances that post in Lemmy World communities must follow the same rules.
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Bots shall not just be posting Reddit content.
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Bots shall not be “spammy”, as in multiple posts per minute.
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Breaking any of these rules will result in a ban for the Bot and, if required, its owner.
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Commands must use the bots mention as prefix, and not a text prefix like !help
These rules will be updated when needed.
What about bots that exist to respond to certain words in comments like the many lotrmemes bots and wandering dwarf miner for deep rock galactic. I’m sure they’re getting close to several a minute depending on comment traffic on those instances, if this place ever gets Reddit size they’ll definitely be doing several per minute
The admins could throttle those bots down to reasonable posting levels and the meta around it could go from expecting an instant response to being “graced by their presence”. Something something art from adversity something something…
We don’t have to be a direct copy of Reddit, after all.
What I don’t like about statements like this is that it ignores the fact that Reddit was just an interface for people to produce content and experiences that they wanted.
We are on Lemmy because we want a different interface, not because we want different content/experiences.
If Lemmy is a direct copy of Reddit, it is because the people want it to be.
Personally, I’m on Lemmy because I want a different owner, not a different interface. I liked old reddit just fine. I left due to the monetization of the community.
True, that’s more what I meant by “different interface”. Not actually feels different, just different as in on a different server.
Thank you. It would seem some believe Reddit forced us to behave a certain way. Traditions and customary behavior, both good and bad, were developed by the users.
I’m sure that’s true of some people, but my Lemmy experience is different from my Reddit experience and I like it that way. The population on it, in amount and type, the framework and the philosophy behind the framework automatically differentiates it from Reddit, for the better.
Sure, but if there are things on Lemmy that were also on Reddit, it’s not automatically a bad thing. People are bringing things to Lemmy that they enjoyed on Reddit.
I’m just saying, don’t knock something just because it was a Reddit thing. We’re all here because, to varying degrees, we loved the Reddit experience and are looking for that experience without the owners.
…I’m not? I’m suggesting another way to interact with similar elements of Reddit within the confines of a much smaller space so that it isn’t overwhelmed.
Maybe you didn’t mean it that way, but the part that I quoted came across that way to me. And I’ve seen that same sentiment in many comments on Lemmy. Like, things being done the “reddit” way in Lemmy is a bad thing. Which is why I said something.
Then please remember that you’re interacting with a number of different people and try not to jump the gun.
Not sure that I have jumped the gun. But ok. I feel that my original comment is valid.
Kind of a tangent, but I hated when bots went from saying random lines to saying relevant lines.
Like if you said Gandalf and ‘pass’ in the same comment then you know the Gandalf bot would reply “you … pass!”
Took the fun away from getting a relevant quote
Perhaps they could simply be rate limited to once every 60 seconds, and abandon some comments if the traffic is too high?
Yea but that could essentially relegate them to being nonexistent.
Yes, good.
Is there even more than 1 comment per minute in those comms yet?
I like the character bots, though I find if they take up too much of the commend section of any given post it’s kinda boring; thus I think a limit on their responses is a good thing.
I remember going to threads in certain communities where 4 or 5 top comments were just back and forth of character bots repeating the same lines over and over.
Please no. Those and the one that quoted Sabaton lyrics were so annoying. They just cluttered up the comments.
Rock and Stone
Did I hear a rock and stone?
ROCK AND STOOOONNNEEE!
I was just thinking about remindme bot. It’s even useful, so I doubt people wouldn’t be happy for it. But it will get loads of requests.
It doesn’t need to publicly respond. A pm would be sufficient.
It also doesn’t need to be publicly requested either. None of us care that someone is setting a reminder on their phone, and that’s all a “remind me” has to be.
But we do, it’s the best kind of humour to see someone set a reminder to remind someone of a reminder they don’t want to be reminded of
Good compromise but I don’t know if the traffic load impact of a pm is much different from a comment. I imagine the server load induced by either is roughly the same
Sending the content wouldn’t be much different, but serving the content would be vastly reduced if it only appeared in one user’s inbox vs being displayed to everyone who visits the thread.
I didn’t think it was about server load so much as just user experience (no comment sections filled with bots)
Yea that one gets lots of requests I’m sure
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Yeah, I’d love to see a way for bots that respond to text the users specifically add to trigger a bot to be allowed. Stuff like remindme - maybe we don’t need that bot if Lemmy clients have that feature, but I love that it’s possible to implement stuff like remindme as a bot.
Could we make that type of bot opt-out for communities? Or have keywords for bots to parse in community descriptions?
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Seconding this. I hope you get an answer.