• @surewhynotlem
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      105 days ago

      Only if you’re lucky. I loved programming. Used to do it all the time. Got a job doing it, and it’s just exhausting now. So much gets caught up in the process: money to survive, meeting other people’s deadlines and goals, etc. It kills the enjoyment.

      • Jerkface (any/all)
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        5 days ago

        Would you rather have a hobby, or food and shelter? Having a love of programming made you good at programming. But programming is a means to an end. It’s enjoyable, but if you don’t produce anything, you’re just masturbating. Once you are good at it, you don’t have to enjoy anymore.

        • @surewhynotlem
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          65 days ago

          Of course, you’d rather have food or shelter. And why would you not have food and shelter? Oh, because society deems that if you don’t work, you don’t live.

          And don’t knock masturbating. It’s a lot of fun. So is programming with no real goal. Sometimes you enjoy the journey, not the destination.

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            5 days ago

            Yes. It’s fun. Fun is secondary to survival. When you have paid your bills, you are free to program for fun! Or, you can forsake your most marketable skill where you have spent the bulk of your character points and compromise your ability to survive for the sake of … fun.

            Play is itself a means to an end. It makes you interested in doing things that you can learn from. Play can be rewarding in itself, but hedonism is a trap.

            • @surewhynotlem
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              25 days ago

              I see what you’re saying, but I think we disagree on a basic premise.

              What’s the purpose of society?