• @Buffalox
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    19 hours ago

    Absolutely USA as a country has been a huge success, and I think you are right, that people think that proves the model is good.
    But there are many other factors that have helped USA become a success. A huge population with a unified language is one, massive agricultural potential is another. Lot’s of natural resources, and oil to kick-start industrialization.
    It will be hard to elevate public education much without social reforms. AFAIK USA spend more on public education than many European countries, but results are worse, maybe in part because of poverty.
    It’s way harder for Children that live in poverty to pay attention to school to the same degree that better off children can. That’s been a well known fact for many decades, and USA is doing absolutely diddly about it.

    • @idiomaddict
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      318 hours ago

      I realized that my comment kind of sounds like I’m calling Americans dumb or uneducated generally, but I was thinking specifically about civics, history, and economics classes and I never mentioned that. Those courses are either missing from the curriculum or heavily biased to the point that I think it’s natural for people to have a poor understanding of fascism.

      My parents both had masters degrees, and I grew up in a house where “communist” was a slur and “anarchist” was a synonym for chaotic. They weren’t stupid or uneducated, but they had been significantly propagandized. My dad fully thinks that leftists are fascist. Hell, I learned through high school that the US had never lost a war. My history classes never got past 1945, with the exceptions of the moon landing and the fall of the Berlin Wall.

      • @Buffalox
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        28 hours ago

        heavily biased to the point that I think it’s natural for people to have a poor understanding of fascism.

        There’s absolutely a tendency to gloss over things in American teachings in general history included.
        So yes I agree, that could very well be part of the problem.

        I learned through high school that the US had never lost a war.

        Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan.
        So I guess your point was easily mostly proven.