• @glimse
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    16 hours ago

    Ugh, greedy Valve making you spend $0 to buy the base game

    [Edit] ok I read the article after making that joke and I see that it applies to several other valve games, not all of which are free to play

    • Bubs
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      2516 hours ago

      Lol. It’s so greedy of them!

      Jokes aside. It’s an interesting distinction to make. Even though the source code is freely available, it doesn’t mean developers have free reign to do anything they want like they could with open source software. Apart from special circumstances, everything made with the source code will still be mods.

      • @[email protected]
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        511 hours ago

        You can’t do whatever you want with open source either. One big stipulation of copyleft licenses is the share-alike clause, which means you can’t make modifications and then decide your program is now closed-source, so it protects the code from being enclosed again.

        I mean yes you can make whatever modifications you want, generally, but it’s not totally unrestricted.

        • @[email protected]
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          25 hours ago

          Im honestly a really big fan of copyleft. I think that it seems more “fair” in a system that requires sacrifice to make progress.

      • @[email protected]
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        310 hours ago

        It does harken back to the original HL mod scene though - some high quality stuff came out of that (and valve picked up the Devs too)

    • @[email protected]
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      16 hours ago

      Yeah, as a resident Valve hater I agree it’s a weird thing to get angry over.

      If there was anything to get angry over is that I bought this game in a box (stand alone because I was too broke for Orange Box!) with an understanding that it’s an online multiplayer shooter. Meaning, there are servers you join manually from a list, shoot at other guys for a bit and return to that server or not based on how good time it was. This functionality has been ripped out of the game and replaced with some weird algorithm. Before that Valve broke their own design promises of clear silhouettes which made the game less accessible. The game has been dead, riddled with bots farming in-game items that can be traded for real money that Valve added to the game because they could. If it was any other game I wouldn’t care but TF2 started out as an amazing game that was mangled beyond recognition by Valve greed.

      They should have released TF2 source code this way 10 years ago. They’re probably doing this now because income from TF2 related items on Marketplace is laughably small compared to their other titles.

      • @Feathercrown
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        12 hours ago

        This functionality has been ripped out of the game

        Nope, see the server browser ingame

        The game has been dead, riddled with bots

        Not anymore!

      • 2xsaiko
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        1213 hours ago

        The server list is still there fwiw. But yeah the matchmaking update was awful.