• @[email protected]
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    209 hours ago

    Can someone please explain this for a non-German. I know there was a large concern with the AfD, but what do the results mean so far?

    • Krik
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      8 hours ago

      Germany will probably get a centrist-right (CDU/CSU) government with a centrist-left junior partner (SPD).
      Centrist-right is far left in US terms.

      I expect stagnancy in German politics for the next 4 years. -_-

      • @[email protected]
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        168 hours ago

        As a foreigner in Germany, CDU is not centrist at all. Maybe you should consider how your definition of “center” changed in the last years. CDU is a right wing party, CSU even more, leaning into populist views, Afd is extremist.

        I wish SPD was left. Most of its policies of the last years were pretty much the same as right wing parties.

        • Krik
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          -18 hours ago

          CDU was always center-right and SPD center-left. In the last years SPD slowly drifted to center. Some still consider them center-left.

          You should check on the definition of extremist. The AfD ist far-right, yes, but not extremist (yet).

          • @[email protected]
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            27 hours ago

            The CDU always has contained everything from centre-left to far-right, as long it’s compatible with democracy. Their right wing is about en par with Reagan, their left wing with, dunno, Harris, status quo liberals in general. They’re not about to abolish public healthcare, gutting unemployment benefits OTOH is up their alley. Social conservatism wise they tend to brake a lot, but aren’t prone to be regressive, like wanting to roll back gay rights or something. Or, differently put, they won’t be any more conservative the EKD which is absolutely fine with reverends having gay sex in the vicarage as long as it’s monogamous.

      • @[email protected]
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        38 hours ago

        CDU/CSU are basically what Republicans have been a couple years ago. They are very much far right, just not facist.

    • @[email protected]
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      209 hours ago

      Without divine intervention we will get Friedrich Merz as chancellor, the guy who just one month ago was fine with working together with the Neo Nazi party Afd.

      So even if a coalition between CDU and Afd isn’t happening, our chancellor is kinda Trump light. Mostly in it for himself and his industry buddies, no political experience and not used to doing compromises. And if somebody criticizes him, he cries like a little baby how unfair we are treating him for calling him a fucking fascist sympathizer.

      So I expect a shitty time, but it looks like CDU and Afd can’t rule alone and the party that is responsible for the whole fiasco, the liberal FDP, got kicked out of the parliament, so at least that is a silver lining.

    • @Tudsamfa
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      38 hours ago

      Aside from what the others have said, there is also a 2nd exit poll, with slightly different estimations. If reality will match this one, the BSW will get into parliament. They are a splinter party of the leftists, taking a most of the tankie nutcases with them.

      They won’t be in government or important opposition, but if they make it, the 2 centrist parties alone don’t have enough seats. This means they need a 3rd party to form a government, and they have no good options. The preferred party would be FDP, but they are estimated to not make it. The greens would normally be up to it, but CDU/CSU campaign has mostly run on getting the greens out of government. And the Leftist, BSW and AFD are all too extreme for the very pensioner friendly CDU/CSU.

      There is a chance we simply won’t have a stable government and will have to redo this election, but from most to least likely:

      • Reality is closer to the first poll, boring centrist government, AFD can try again in 4 years
      • The CDU will make some meaningless concessions to the greens and the greens will fall for it
      • The CDU will completely destroy any trust and form a government with AFD
      • There won’t be any stable government and a new election is called.
      • Any Leftists in Government
      • There won’t be a stable government, our president still elects a chancellor, we will have 4 weeks of a minority government and then someone triggers new elections.