I have a lot of criticism for the Dems, but I’ve also worked with them at several levels. A huge portion of the party is former or current blue collar. I think a lot of people see what they want to see. It’s easy to think of the party as evil corpo shills, but the problem really is that the corpo shills rise to the top, not that they are as prevalent as people think they are. Money puts people in the executive.
If you want to run for president, governor, or mayor those positions attract enough money to effectively remove authenticity from the race. If you have 4 Dems in the primary and 1 of them is a business dem, that’s the one most likely to have enormous capital shifted to. Which creates the conditions for their future victory. Our system of government and economic system are both infinitely corruptible irrespective of party.
It’s entirely dishonest to pretend the Democrats haven’t had large factions in their party entirely worker based. The largest support system for the party has historically been labor unions. Talking about class traitors, imaging having perfect be the enemy of good and refusing to improve what we have towards a better system. Accelerationism is not a solution.
This isn’t a case of “the perfect being the enemy of the good.” This is expecting us to ally with one enemy because they’ve convinced us the other will hurt us more.
Again, working class people existing within the Democratic Party gives them absolutely no forgiveness for serving the wants of billionaires ahead of the needs of the people.
I worked with and encountered many politicians in the past and maybe 1 in 10 Dems was “pro” corporate that I encountered. The problem is that the 1 in 10 are enough to slow progress to a crawl. Just assuming that all Dems are beholden to billionaires is silly.
Many of those running for office are using the only left wing mechanism available. Left wing people are all over the party in state and federal governments. If we want our government to move left, we need the Dems to move left.
You move them left by becoming the party and forcing them further left, imo. The party is a sum of it’s people, if the members become more left wing, then the party will. See what Trump did to the Republicans, half the party despised him, they feed his agenda because without him their party ends. The left wing could do the same if they didn’t see giving up as a viable strategy…
I’ve heard this song since the 1970s, and it’s not a golden oldie. It’s futility, working from inside to change a beast that’s determined to out-Republican the Republicans.
Accelerationism and violent revolution rarely provide the outcome people are looking for. It just creates a power vacuum that powerful people fill. The idea that we can just break it and start over is a fantasy. If we break it, people like Peter Theil get their wildest dreams of corporate city states, or someone else gets their slavery and genocide. Bernie Sanders and AOC are not going to be starting the new government.
That’s going to be the case for any capitalist party. Only a worker’s party will associate with workers.
I have a lot of criticism for the Dems, but I’ve also worked with them at several levels. A huge portion of the party is former or current blue collar. I think a lot of people see what they want to see. It’s easy to think of the party as evil corpo shills, but the problem really is that the corpo shills rise to the top, not that they are as prevalent as people think they are. Money puts people in the executive.
That is the problem, and it’s a pretty huge problem.
I don’t understand your position. If the party is being run by evil corpo shills, that makes it an evil corpo shill party?
If you want to run for president, governor, or mayor those positions attract enough money to effectively remove authenticity from the race. If you have 4 Dems in the primary and 1 of them is a business dem, that’s the one most likely to have enormous capital shifted to. Which creates the conditions for their future victory. Our system of government and economic system are both infinitely corruptible irrespective of party.
I don’t care if there are workers serving in a capitalist party. They’re class traitors. Capitalism is inherently anti-worker.
It’s entirely dishonest to pretend the Democrats haven’t had large factions in their party entirely worker based. The largest support system for the party has historically been labor unions. Talking about class traitors, imaging having perfect be the enemy of good and refusing to improve what we have towards a better system. Accelerationism is not a solution.
This isn’t a case of “the perfect being the enemy of the good.” This is expecting us to ally with one enemy because they’ve convinced us the other will hurt us more.
Again, working class people existing within the Democratic Party gives them absolutely no forgiveness for serving the wants of billionaires ahead of the needs of the people.
I worked with and encountered many politicians in the past and maybe 1 in 10 Dems was “pro” corporate that I encountered. The problem is that the 1 in 10 are enough to slow progress to a crawl. Just assuming that all Dems are beholden to billionaires is silly.
Many of those running for office are using the only left wing mechanism available. Left wing people are all over the party in state and federal governments. If we want our government to move left, we need the Dems to move left.
You move them left by becoming the party and forcing them further left, imo. The party is a sum of it’s people, if the members become more left wing, then the party will. See what Trump did to the Republicans, half the party despised him, they feed his agenda because without him their party ends. The left wing could do the same if they didn’t see giving up as a viable strategy…
I’ve heard this song since the 1970s, and it’s not a golden oldie. It’s futility, working from inside to change a beast that’s determined to out-Republican the Republicans.
Burn it all down.
Accelerationism and violent revolution rarely provide the outcome people are looking for. It just creates a power vacuum that powerful people fill. The idea that we can just break it and start over is a fantasy. If we break it, people like Peter Theil get their wildest dreams of corporate city states, or someone else gets their slavery and genocide. Bernie Sanders and AOC are not going to be starting the new government.
Well, I don’t disagree with that, but my “burn it all down” was for the Democratic Party, not the USA.
That sounds great! Where do we get one of those?
I like PSL.