Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain’t dead. Remember, don’t downvote for disagreements.

  • @Nosavingthrow
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    64 hours ago

    I think if we eliminated money, we would just invent it again and call it something else.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 hour ago

      Well yah. The alternative is barter and farmers only need so many cell phones and software developers.

      • @Nosavingthrow
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        22 hours ago

        Anything you exchange as a representation or substitute for something else of value. I think communism would reinvent what I consider money but wouldn’t use it as it’s used under capitalism.

        • Cowbee [he/they]
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          12 hours ago

          Some Communist theoreticians consider Labor Vouchers to be distinct from money, as they would be destroyed upon first use and serve more as a “credit” for labor, and would eliminate the concept of accumulation of money from labor exploitation and exchange.

          • @Nosavingthrow
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            22 hours ago

            I am aware of this. It’s functionally no different than a dollar bill. The fact that I intend to melt down an axe after I use it to chop a tree down doesn’t make it not an axehead. If I used that same axe to hack my neighbor to death, well, that’s a completely different use. In the case of communist ‘money’, I think we would cease using money to kill our neighbor.

            • Cowbee [he/they]
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              1 hour ago

              I don’t understand how the issues of money persist if you can only earn LVs through labor, and can’t be accumulated through Capital ownership. Why would you kill your neighbor?

              • @Nosavingthrow
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                21 hour ago

                I wouldn’t kill my neighbor? Was that too complicated an example? I think that money, like an axe, is a tool that can be used differently in different contexts. ‘Money’ isn’t the issue. How it’s used is the issue, which is why I think we would invent it. You don’t solve the ‘issues’ of an axe. You don’t solve the ‘issues’ of money. Capitalism uses stand-ins for value to harm people, but I am not convinced it’s an inherent trait of value stand-ins. I think LV’s are money, so I think you think that is true also.

                • Cowbee [he/they]
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                  21 hour ago

                  I’m asking what’s wrong with money that carries over to LVs. Why is money an issue?

                  • @Nosavingthrow
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                    19 minutes ago

                    I never claimed there was anything wrong with money? As far as I thought, I was arguing that it was a tool so useful it would be reinvented if a society did away with it.