• @dhork
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    Jon Stewart single-handedly got CNN’s “Crossfire” ( featuring a not-yet-fully-crazy Tucker Carlson) cancelled just by going on the show and doing his thing.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Stewart's_2004_appearance_on_Crossfire

    In the final exchange before a commercial break, Carlson remarked that he thought Stewart was “more fun on your show, just my opinion.” Stewart responded, “You know what’s interesting, though? You’re as big a dick on your show as you are on any show.”

    (Shit, that was over 20 years ago. I’m old …)

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        Jon Stewart: “How old are you?”

        Tucker Carlson: “35.”

        Jon Stewart: “And you wear a bow tie.”

        “Look, I’m not suggesting you aren’t a smart guy, because those things are not easy to tie. But the thing is, you’re doing theatre, when you should be doing debate. It’s not honest… what you do is partisan hackery.”

        Jon Stewart on Crossfire

        And so savage was the mockery that he never wore a bowtie again.

        • @danc4498
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          111 day ago

          That was Carlsons “rejected from art school” moment.

          • @Jumpingspiderman
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            What do you think Krasnov’s “rejected from Art School” moment was?

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              From all the information I’ve been able to gather, all signs seem to point toward “being born”

          • @dhork
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            723 hours ago

            There is a direct line between GWB and Trump. The lies of the Bush administration and it’s denigration of the “reality-based community” laid the groundwork for Donald Trump’s Big Lies. if Al Gore won in 2000, I doubt we would have Trump today. Ron Suskind wrote all about it in the NYT back then. This article about the article is not behind their paywall:

            https://theweek.com/articles/854892/what-karl-rove-right-about-realitybased-community

            The aide said that guys like me [Suskind] were “in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who “believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. “That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”

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            211 day ago

            To be fair, he was responsible for the deaths of 4 million people, yet is better remembered for fucking up a proverb. That’s pretty absurd.

        • @WhiskyTangoFoxtrot
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          Bowties would become cool again six years later, but Carlson never would.

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      (Shit, that was over 20 years ago. I’m old …)

      i watched that crossfire interview when it first aired and i think it’s telling that stewart & the daily show et al. are still the primary vanguard of american liberalism when the rest of the world has changed; especially so when they solely focus on stoking the culture war fires and ignoring the class war that creates them.

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      I don’t know how my mother convinced me to watch Crossfire. I was a kid. She thought it was intellectually awesome.

      EDIT: To be clear, I don’t remember anything about Crossfire.

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      Right? Makes you feel old, doesn’t it?

      Elon can’t handle it so he ducked out. In addition, Tesla probably texted him and said don’t.

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        352 days ago

        His cybertruck sent him a message saying “this is an uphill battle. I cannot help, you’re on your own”

      • @jj4211
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        121 hours ago

        I suspect everyone knows better than to tell him not to do it. That’s likely as anything to make him decide he will do it.

        But they also know if they don’t press the issue, Musk will always flake on any thing like this.