It’s the same with other EU countries, NATO article 5 has been triggered once, after 911. We came to help and lost many soldiers in Afghanistan etc. Now Russia is a major thread to Europe and the US is actively helping Russia.
I used to get into arguments about the “cowards” thing. Like yeah, they forfeit a time or two and lost a few fights. So have most countries, whether they let you know about it or not.
They have also been a global super power for at least as long as America has existed, or longer, depending on what you consider to be a super power. So yeah, they brushed up against a couple of rough patches in that time lol
I would argue America wouldn’t exist without Frances aid, at least not in the form that it does now. Whether that was different founding fathers because of lives lost or still being an English colony one can only guess
I can tell you that the attitude in Poland is along the lines of “we had a defensive pact, but when we actually got attacked, France just refused to come and help, then promptly surrendered”.
People need to remember that when France came to honor their pact to help Serbia, we all got WWI and Petain wasn’t too keen on doing that again.
Not defending his decision because I don’t think there is anything much more shameful than abandoning an ally being attacked, but it’s important to maybe understand context.
We Americans have been propagandized all our lives to look down on the French, even before they whole “freedom fries” dumbfuckery.
We need to show them more respect.
It’s the same with other EU countries, NATO article 5 has been triggered once, after 911. We came to help and lost many soldiers in Afghanistan etc. Now Russia is a major thread to Europe and the US is actively helping Russia.
I used to get into arguments about the “cowards” thing. Like yeah, they forfeit a time or two and lost a few fights. So have most countries, whether they let you know about it or not.
They have also been a global super power for at least as long as America has existed, or longer, depending on what you consider to be a super power. So yeah, they brushed up against a couple of rough patches in that time lol
They’re also a big part of the reason America won the Revolutionary War in the first place.
I would argue America wouldn’t exist without Frances aid, at least not in the form that it does now. Whether that was different founding fathers because of lives lost or still being an English colony one can only guess
I think France has won more wars than any other nation in history.
I can tell you that the attitude in Poland is along the lines of “we had a defensive pact, but when we actually got attacked, France just refused to come and help, then promptly surrendered”.
Poland has a very significantly better reason to think of France as cowards than America does lmao
People need to remember that when France came to honor their pact to help Serbia, we all got WWI and Petain wasn’t too keen on doing that again.
Not defending his decision because I don’t think there is anything much more shameful than abandoning an ally being attacked, but it’s important to maybe understand context.