What we have right now is oligopolistic crony capitalism and not an actual functioning market economy. A soviet style planned economy is certainly not something we should aspire to.
Good news! No one here mentioned planned economies! While some people who criticize capitalism only want to improve it, some do want to explore alternatives such as planned economies or market socialism. It’s also possible to have a planned economy and not have a society even remotely similar to the soviet union.
Edit: You know, sorry about that the meme does directly call out markets, but it doesn’t exactly imply a soviet style anything. Again, socialism only requires that people own their own workplaces etc., which means it allows for a wide variety of economic systems.
I’m a huge fan of decentralized planning. You have worker councils, miner councils, customer councils, all connected to share information what is needed and what can be produced
There are aspects of economy that certainly should be centrally planned though. A few industries that come to mind are transportation infrastructure and power generation. Private competition is good for most industries but it should never be allowed to dismantle public services for profit. When capitalism arrived in my country in the 90s it devastated our rail network since profit became more important than providing people with transportation services. There are cities of around 80k population that don’t have any rail connections now, some cities twice as large have sparse or barely any connections.
Absolutely. I’m by no means a market radical. Markets need regulation and a lot of the current mess is caused by lack of anti-trust enforcement. And public infrastructure is not something that can be controlled by markets.
Agreed. Every company deals with this exact same issue on a smaller scale. IT departments, building maintenance, administration, etc. All the costs to do business that don’t directly bring in profit.
I don’t get why they think a country wouldn’t have similar areas. Stuff you have to pay for, but isn’t directly helping GDP or overall success.
What we have right now is oligopolistic crony capitalism and not an actual functioning market economy. A soviet style planned economy is certainly not something we should aspire to.
Good news! No one here mentioned planned economies! While some people who criticize capitalism only want to improve it, some do want to explore alternatives such as planned economies or market socialism. It’s also possible to have a planned economy and not have a society even remotely similar to the soviet union.
Edit: You know, sorry about that the meme does directly call out markets, but it doesn’t exactly imply a soviet style anything. Again, socialism only requires that people own their own workplaces etc., which means it allows for a wide variety of economic systems.
I’m a huge fan of decentralized planning. You have worker councils, miner councils, customer councils, all connected to share information what is needed and what can be produced
That’s a nice idea. I’d be happy to join after that has been proven to work.
It does work, coops do work and survive and are more resilient to downturns than privately owned businesses.
There are aspects of economy that certainly should be centrally planned though. A few industries that come to mind are transportation infrastructure and power generation. Private competition is good for most industries but it should never be allowed to dismantle public services for profit. When capitalism arrived in my country in the 90s it devastated our rail network since profit became more important than providing people with transportation services. There are cities of around 80k population that don’t have any rail connections now, some cities twice as large have sparse or barely any connections.
Absolutely. I’m by no means a market radical. Markets need regulation and a lot of the current mess is caused by lack of anti-trust enforcement. And public infrastructure is not something that can be controlled by markets.
Agreed. Every company deals with this exact same issue on a smaller scale. IT departments, building maintenance, administration, etc. All the costs to do business that don’t directly bring in profit.
I don’t get why they think a country wouldn’t have similar areas. Stuff you have to pay for, but isn’t directly helping GDP or overall success.