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    1 day ago

    First off, Signal hasn’t said anything, this is an accusation made at a conference in Kyiv. So - who knows, they’re behind, they don’t have billions to support an army, who knows.

    IF they have chosen to not help Ukraine where at all possible, that would be bad.

    All of that said, if I was running a modern army using an encrypted chat app, I’d fucking have all that shit in-house, wtf. It’s 2025. Ukraine already has a bunch of l337 h4X0rs. I’m sure they could slap something together in days and have it in the field in weeks.

    • @[email protected]
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      38 hours ago

      I’m sure they could slap something together in days and have it in the field in weeks.

      We make a lot of assumptions about how other people live, and what they have available.

    • @pntha
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      6724 hours ago

      not to mention the Signal protocol is open source so they could literally build something in days and ensure the same encryption

      • @ForgotAboutDre
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        Maintaining and testing such an app has costs and risks. They may think it’s more secure that signal does this. It is also harder to attack all of signal.

        They are also significantly resource constrained, everything they have goes towards defence. The effort building the app could be deployed on developing weapon systems they can’t buy.

        Your right nations should have their own independent systems for secure communications for military, politicians and civil service.

      • mohab
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        415 hours ago

        I wish. SimpleX has a notification/delivery issue on iOS—it’s not reliable at all over there.

        • NebLem
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          110 hours ago

          Most Ukrainians are probably priced out from Apple products. I don’t think iOS is a concern in their use case.

          • @[email protected]
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            39 hours ago

            They have over 30% ios devices, for whatever reasons iphones are very popular in Ukraine.