Hi, there have been some controversy on lemmy and in particular lemmy.ml with regards to affiliation with Putin.

I was wondering what were the point of view of the owner of Lemmy.world on the topic.

  • RuudMA
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    2 years ago

    My political views are not important, we just have a set of rules and as long as you follow these any decent polite discussion would be possible.

    I’m also not going to ban [email protected] just because I support a different team…

    • DiligentCod
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      2 years ago

      I think no one would blame you or complain if you ban Ajax

    • BombOmOm
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      2 years ago

      My political views are not important, we just have a set of rules and as long as you follow these any decent polite discussion would be possible.

      Thank you! This is by far the best approach.

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      2 years ago

      Thank you for being awesome.

    • ChaosAD
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      2 years ago

      You are super awesome!!!

    • bostondrivingisworse
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      2 years ago

      …isn’t there a point at which it’s not just ‘politics’, though? Like mass killing of civilians and genocide?

      Like… C’mon. This should be an easy one.

      Edit: haha, Taiwan numbah one! Fuck Putin!

      • brain_in_a_box
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        2 years ago

        What politics do you hold that has never in history been associated with atrocities by its opponents.

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          I’m not talking about history, though. I’m talking about now. These atrocities are happening now.

          The fact that you tacitly admit this, but dismiss it with “well, everyone has some skeletons in their closet” is disturbing. You should rethink your priorities.

      • nivenkos
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        2 years ago

        Does it accomplish much? The same users can just create accounts on lemmy.ml or here.

        The brigading is an issue, but defederating doesn’t seem like a huge help right now.

        • TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca
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          2 years ago

          Doesn’t defederating mean posts won’t show up? That seems like probably the main reason to defederate. You’ll never stop people from creating new accounts or a new instance, but defederating creates friction forcing people to take an alternative route if they want to troll.

          Regarding lemmygrad, has there been any trolling via alt accounts on instances that have defederated? Even if I disagree with their politics they seem generally respectful of the communities. But I’ve been away from Lemmy for a while so maybe I’ve missed something.

        • certain_people
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          2 years ago

          Oxygen of publicity spreads toxicity. Defederation would take away a huge part of their potential to reach people, if they’re being toxic.

        • FantasticFox
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          2 years ago

          It makes it harder. I doubt most people are that determined.

        • cura
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          2 years ago

          Genuine question: What do you think will help lemmy.world for that matter?

    • lhx
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      2 years ago

      Well, I’d say they’re more important than you’re letting on. Hypothetically speaking (and not lobbing accusations), if you for example supported the modern Nazi movement, that would be something your users should know.

      Might be nice to hear you’re not pro-Putin though without specifics.