• But_my_mom_says_im_cool
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    Why aren’t Americans taking out these thugs? Isnt that what the 2nd amendment is for?

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      Because the second you pull that trigger, your life is over. If you don’t have an organized movement to back you up (we don’t) you’re fucked if you start shooting. Anyone who depends on you for care or income or support is fucked. Organizing an antifascist militia in a post-COINTELPRO America is really fucking hard, even in places where the bootlickers are few and the guns are many.

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        Fear leads to anger (something that can be seen boiling in Lemmy and other social media sites), anger leads to hate . . . ah, well, you kow the rest.

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      No. It was about the balance of power of states vs the federal government. It also doesn’t work for that either.

      • But_my_mom_says_im_cool
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        lol America is a third world shithole where a big chunk of your people are in poverty, because all the money is going to your terrorist war machine. Last thing I wanna hear from an American is a lecture on morality

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        Unless it’s by the police against the brown people in your neighbourhood, right? Because that’s what a good, god-fearing, freedom loving first world country does. Without repercussions.

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      Because Americans would rather dress up in silly costumes and have fun dancing while ICE is killing people, destroying families, and abusing innocent children.

      • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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        If you don’t live here, maybe don’t get your facts from our propaganda mill media system.

        I’d post all the shit going on with people fighting ICE, but I just don’t have the energy any longer. I’m already spending way too much time dealing with Trump supporters. That’s where people like you land right now… You’re spreading bullshit just like them.

        Go join ICE if you want to spread misinformation, at least then you’ll get paid.

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          I don’t. I get it from the videos you people share. Ive literally seen dickheads doing 80s exercise routines outside of ICE centres and they’re having so much fun laughing away. You uphold dressing up in inflatable costumes as the height of sticking it to the fascists. Meanwhile people are dying.

          It’s fucking nauseating.

          • arrow74@lemmy.zip
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            Yet you are talking about and actually noticed those protests. Almost as if that was the point…

            Additionally the administration is trying to incite violence. That’s a golden ticket to use the military to violently crush opposition. This country spends more money on the military than any other country in the world. It can boots on the ground anywhere on the planet within 24hrs. Now imagine its domestic capabilities.

            People online are always so brave proclaiming when you should pick up a gun and go die in a revolution. But when the time comes and you still have a full belly, a place to live, and a family to care for you too would find it pretty god damn difficult to go and die in a war.

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              They’re telling others online to just simply start a war and go die. They’re doing their part citizen

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      Nooo. That would be an excuse by the Trump Administration to declare Martial Law, and then he could prevent the mid-term elections from happening.

      What people I talk to agree on, is that as long as no mass attacks happen, what you are seeing is a ton of police action that does not meet the standards for qualified immunity.

      With Trump, you don’t want to meet him head on, but you meet him in a court, because that is where he is weakest.

      Also, those brownshirts are going to discover just how disposable they are - just like the ones in the Third Reich were - after the mid-term elections.

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        With Trump, you don’t want to meet him head on, but you meet him in a court, because that is where he is weakest.

        Hahaha fucking libs mate. The courts haven’t stopped Trump doing shit, he walks over them daily.

        The only way to defeat a fascist is with a bullet.

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          Hey, that guy in PA last year got THIIIIIIIIIIIS close.

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            Sadly it’s only been the shittiest of Americans doing the best things as of late (Trump, Kirk)

            Well except for whoever killed that healthcare CEO, we still don’t know who actually did that one yet.

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        “we can’t resist or they’ll… checks notes … do all the stuff they’re doing anyway”

        lol

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          Damn I missed the marines mass murdering protesters and the suspension of elections.

          What dimension do you get your news from? Clearly this one isn’t as exciting as it could be

      • Krono@lemmy.today
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        the fantasy of justice

        I remember having similar fantasies during the W. Bush administration. “Surely, when Democrats get into power these egregious war criminals will face justice in the courts!”

        Being a lesser evil voter in this country is probably the logical choice, but it is also signing up for a lifetime supply of “fell for it again” awards.

        Your comparison to the brownshirts is correct- most rank and file brownshirts were never prosecuted.

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          We have to settle for the “lesser evil” because we wait until the final contest to finally make a choice.

          There is a plenitude of opportunities to make our voices heard before the Tuesday after the first Monday every four years. And to better forge our future to be more than the “lesser of two evils”.

          The problem isn’t that we have too much participation, it’s that we have too little. This wouldn’t change if we used a different method of participation. Be it peaceful protest, violent revolution, or some other option. It requires that a population be involved in decision making of their own future. Far more often then once every few years.