The city of Tehran witnessed a noticeable decline in unrest on Friday night, following the deployment of Basij forces to contain the recent wave of violence. According to Fars News Agency, the capital saw relative calm, with only limited rioting reported, a significant reduction compared to the previous night’s events.
Iranian state television reported on Thursday that two members of the security forces were killed by rioters in the city of Qom. In a separate development, state media aired footage showing the arrest of an armed group in Lorestan province.
Moreover, the police chief of Holilan district in Ilam province was killed amid the unveiling events in the country, Iranian police reported.
Rioters also burned a security officer alive in Marvdasht, in the Fars province, state broadcasters reported, describing the incident as a blatant act of terrorism that shocked the local community
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Yeah, support the CIA -backed color revolution! 🙄
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How brain dead do you have to be to think like this?
yeah its not like mossad publicly tweeted about them being involved on the ground
Let’s suppose that is true, so what? There are foreign agents in every major revolution or protest ever. That’s how the world works. The reality doesn’t change, the protests in Iran right now can’t be manufactured. The grievances of the people are real, and just because you’re too much of a bozo to see them, that doesn’t mean their brave resistance is a part of imaginary conspiracy that you made up to cope with the reality that your view of this regime is entirely fueled by propaganda.
Ah yes lets disregard the tweet on mossad account they made in farsi. I dont expect you to know that though since you clearly know so much about iran. its absurd that you call this a conspiracy theory when its publicly available. How can i take you seriously when you cant even investigate a fycking twitter post?
But sure its not like last time the revolution brought bad results. And surely the mossad help is gonna be great its not like fucking israelies have bad intentions for iran.
Yes, I’m going to disregard it because fucking Israel can’t manufacture organic revolutions. You have to be so mind numbingly brain dead to think that’s even possible. Just because you have Israel as your big boogeyman, that doesn’t mean they can start magically doing things like convincing an entire country turn out against the ruling regime.
Back during the cold war the US and Soviet Union used to have a fun competition of toppling regimes, and the methods they used were NOTHING like this. They used to fund proxy groups, give arms to different opposing groups, . The people in Iran are nothing like that. They’re your average citizen. They have no weapons, no money, and no future.
Like take a step back and just use your brain for once. Over the past 3 years alone, the Iranian regime has…:
Maybe, just maybe, Iranians have genuine grievances against their government? Could it be possible that the people who have been so improvised and oppressed for so long feel like they have nothing to lose anymore? Like seriously, how can someone see all of this and think “this must be one big Israeli conspiracy”, it’s just such a childish take. No, there’s no big mystery behind it. The Iranian theocracy is cartoonishly evil, incompetent, and corrupt that the people of Iran just feel fed up. Their risking their lives because they want change.
Will Israel and other foreign powers want to take advantage? Of course they will. But that’s how geopolitics works and has always worked. Internal revolutions and unrest in a country are never truly internal, they’re always global events concentrated in one place. Does this fact being true invalidate the will of the Iranian people? Fuck no, and it stupid to think this way. Does this fact mean we should support the Iranian regime? Also fuck no, evil regimes need to be rightfully toppled by the hands of the people.
Lol boogeyman. Dont make me laugh. A human who sees what israel did doesnt need to look again. He knows what they are. Its beyond debate beyond need of argument. Indeed youre right by definition a “revolution” which was influenced by enemy is by defunition not organic. Great argument, and completely irrelevant here.
now regardung the listing of some real and some fabricated crimes, yes they are cartoonishly evil and of course nothing in comparison to what we do or what the leader of iran we liked did. Shah, israel, us all far more cartoonishly evil then what you listed. Now i see you quite clearly, you seem to be quitw a fan of israeli war crimes. Well what a surprise, you should hide that a bit more. Maybe the hasbara will work better when its believable that you actually care about the people on whose behalf youre claiming to argue. The single fact that youre willing to disregard the exact part pointing to the involvement shows your bad faith. When youre unable to argue something, you disregard it. But i should concede, any side the genocider is on, i will argue for the other side. Thats i think moral imperative, i will never ally myself with a genocide. But honestly even the favt that you didnt know of the post and then wasnt able/willing to check shows how deeply you care. Also the fact that these shits are involved tells anyone what sort of change we could expect. Israel wanted us war with iran, well they didnt get that, so other options are being tested.
Also see how i dont need to insult you baselessly? Are you so unsure in your claim that you need those ad homina?
The American revolution was financed, armed, and supported by France, as well as Spain and the Netherlands to a lesser extent to weaken Britain.
The revolutions that led to the independence of Spanish colonies in Latin America throughout the 1800s, were all supported by Britain to weaken Spain.
Greek independence was heavily supported by France and Britain to help weaken the Ottoman Empire.
The Soviet Union influenced and directly supported, funded, and armed the Communist revolution in China.
The Mexican revolution was supported by the US to weaken Spain.
I could keep going, but I think you get the idea. Are you going to tell me that all of these revolutions and uprisings in history are fake and inorganic because foreign powers played a role? Are you seriously going to tell me that the people who rose up and participated didn’t have genuine grievances and that it was better for them to shut up and put up with their oppressors? It’s like I said before, it’s asinine. Revolutions are always global events. There’s no such thing as a revolution that happens in a vacuum, especially in a major country as big as Iran. There will always be foreign powers who want to shift the tides in their favor, however, their meddling does not detract from the will of people who are actually carrying out the revolution.
Every single thing that I stated on that list is factually true, every single one. I know for a fact that you can’t find a single false one in there, and therefore this statement is nothing more than apologia for the Iranian regime.
No, the theocracy is way more evil and it’s not even close. The fact that you even say this just shows that you have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s a statement bred out of ignorance. Not only is your statement here false, but it is also entirely meaningless. Why? Because it’s irrelevant. What you personally deem to be more or less evil means absolutely nothing. The only relevant point is that the Iranian people deem their regime to be evil, and they’re rising up because of this view. You can’t wash away the regime’s crimes or the grievances of the people with some weak fallacious attempts at whataboutism.
This is just pathetic, even for you. There isn’t even a point in acknowledging these accusations because we both know that I didn’t express any support for Israel whatsoever at any point during our conversation… so who are you trying to convince here exactly? Nobody is reading this convo besides us. So I ask again, who? Yourself? Like come on.
These accusations are so bad that they just make you sound insecure about your worldview. Which is really ironic, because later in your comment you went out of your way to call me out for baseless accusations and insults, and you even mentioned how my usage of them implied that I was unsure in my claims… but here you are doing the very thing you called out.
That’s the thing though, I didn’t disregard it. I explicitly acknowledged it, however, I also said that it doesn’t invalidate the revolution. The fact that you’re strawmanning my clearly laid out position and derailing this whole conversation from the actual topic into a pissing match where you just try to attack my character (irony yet again), thus forcing me defend myself like I am doing right now shows that I’m not the one acting in bad faith here. I still very much want to get back on topic.
There are two sides here: the people and the regime. The people are fighting for their rights, freedoms, and country. The regime is fighting to maintain it’s brutal tyranny, oppression, and grip on power. You’re explicitly siding with oppressor at the expense of the people. That’s not a moral stance in any capcity.
Keep in mind, the Iranian regime is very much genocidal and what they have done in both Iran and in the region via their terrorist proxies is nothing short of horrific. What the Iranian militias did in my home country (Iraq) can and should be considered genocide. So you don’t have the moral imperative even by your own definition.
The central issue here is you mentally locked yourself with a false assumption. Automatically supporting “the other side” collapses moral judgment into a false binary, ignores cases where multiple sides commit atrocities, and can even force support for another genocidal party, which is exactly the case here. Opposing a genocider does not require endorsing their enemy, and framing it that way mistakes moral clarity for moral absolutism. A principled stance is to oppose and condemn genocide wherever it occurs without automatically legitimizing or advocating for those who may also cause grave harm. In other words you can be against the Israel and the Iranian regime while standing with the people.
Again, stop trying to delegitimize the grievances of the Iranian people. What you’re doing here is unironically racist. These people are not pawns of Israel. They have agency and they know what they’re fighting for and what they’re fighting against. This is the real world, not stop geopolitics simulation game. The world doesn’t revolve around Israel, and these people are not going to put up with their oppressor just because you don’t like a potential geopolitical outcome. We’re talking about 91 million people here who their rights, freedoms, sovereignty, and country back. Why are you against that? Why are you siding with the oppressor? Like you actually need to reexamine your values because this is messed up.
Completely fair. As you can see, there’s no ad homs in this comment, and there won’t be going forward. I ask that you follow your own advice so we can have a common understanding.
If they won, USA-Israel will show them what brutality really means. But you won’t mean that, it’s just natural imperialism, as god intended.
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LOL yourself in the head, just look at Iraq.