you’re absolutely correct, no, it isn’t which makes this worse, i can’t read anymore fucking articles about how child labor is becoming the norm again, on top of everything else, it’s all just too much so i assumed
FWIW, the incident in question happened in 2019, so it’s not anything happening due to the current climate. And while the owner should have ensured the kid had a work permit, the kid was already a high school dropout, so might not have had any way to get a work permit legally anyway. At some point, people still need to eat. I’ve read several articles at this point and it feels like there’s some grey in here somewhere that I just don’t know enough to be able to form an opinion on.
While this is pretty awful and shouldn’t have happened, I don’t think I’d advocate that a 17 year old shouldn’t be allowed to have any job at all. I think they should be paid normal minimum wage, same as any other employee, and there should be jobs that they can’t do due to age (such as this one), but I wouldn’t stop it altogether.
That said, I’m completely fine with increasing the fines for employing a minor in a dangerous profession though, which is apparently the charge that the owner plead guilty to. Fines for employers who break the law should be increased in general, especially when it puts workers in danger.
This happened in Michigan…a blue state…the fuck are you talking about. Fuckin hell you people are just as ignorant sometimes as the GOP you complain about.
On top of that, he was 17, 2 months from being 18. I started working when I was 16 like most kids do for summer cash and to learn responsibilities of money.
Also, can you say it with me? You even said it yourself that he was 2 months away from 18. So please let’s just all say it together… he… was… not… 18! So… he… is… a… kid!
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Michigan is a Republican shithole state?
you’re absolutely correct, no, it isn’t which makes this worse, i can’t read anymore fucking articles about how child labor is becoming the norm again, on top of everything else, it’s all just too much so i assumed
FWIW, the incident in question happened in 2019, so it’s not anything happening due to the current climate. And while the owner should have ensured the kid had a work permit, the kid was already a high school dropout, so might not have had any way to get a work permit legally anyway. At some point, people still need to eat. I’ve read several articles at this point and it feels like there’s some grey in here somewhere that I just don’t know enough to be able to form an opinion on.
While this is pretty awful and shouldn’t have happened, I don’t think I’d advocate that a 17 year old shouldn’t be allowed to have any job at all. I think they should be paid normal minimum wage, same as any other employee, and there should be jobs that they can’t do due to age (such as this one), but I wouldn’t stop it altogether.
That said, I’m completely fine with increasing the fines for employing a minor in a dangerous profession though, which is apparently the charge that the owner plead guilty to. Fines for employers who break the law should be increased in general, especially when it puts workers in danger.
This happened in Michigan…a blue state…the fuck are you talking about. Fuckin hell you people are just as ignorant sometimes as the GOP you complain about.
On top of that, he was 17, 2 months from being 18. I started working when I was 16 like most kids do for summer cash and to learn responsibilities of money.
And yet he wasn’t 18.
Also, can you say it with me? You even said it yourself that he was 2 months away from 18. So please let’s just all say it together… he… was… not… 18! So… he… is… a… kid!
There you go!
You know, I appreciate the sentiment that the rule is the rule, and that’s the stick we’re going to use to fight these violations, sure.
But this style is tiresome. Lay off the demeaning tone.
That Supra idiot is all over this thread, saying the same thing over and over.
That demeaning style is 100% appropriate here
It is a Blue State which is why the owner was charged and found guilty.
Also, Michigan is blue now. Flint and Snyder’s “emergency managers” really weren’t that long ago.
Looks like the incident happened 4 years ago (2019)
Yes because fines from the feds only happen in blue states…