• idiomaddict
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    I mean…. German cops are friendlier than American cops, but they’re still bastards. Oury Jalloh, the fascist WhatsApp group from Hessen, and similar things happen here too.

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      Yeah, but OP doesn’t personally suffer…

      Yet.

      But if OP is convinced everything is fine, they’ll never stop it from getting worse.

      And eventually they’ll transitions from “us” to “them” in the eyes of the government and police.

      They’re in that lazy compliance stage fascists support.

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      “things happen” everywhere, all the time. but judging by just the bad things from some whatsapp-group (who still uses WA nowadays?) is not really a good measure, is it? That’s more a mixture of availability and negativity bias based on availability heuristics and the “mean world syndrome”. Besides, what else should extreme rightists or leftists report? How they have been treated super nicely and the state is fine and how they’re content with the status quo?

      We have official statistics though, they surely tell a different story. And to even add worthless anecdotal knowledge: I’m >50 and had many encounters with cops in many different situations and ranks. And they all went fine, civilized and polite. If you act civilized, you’ll most likely be treated civilized. By cops and anyone else.

      Any why on earth should I pick cop as a job when i’m a bastard. I’d take something in finance and fuck you where it really hurts. But people love tribalism and hating the same stuff together, like microsoft-bad or ACAB. Doesn’t always have to be fact-based, despite the existence of probably a good number of bastard-cops.

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        I mean, yeah, it’s not a big deal if you don’t think about it further. I don’t like knowing that the people who are supposed to be impartial and who might have to intervene in a situation in which I find myself in danger don’t think I’m as valuable as a German citizen is. If the police had faced consequences, I would be a lot less concerned, because as you said, bad things happen everywhere. With no consequences, it means there’s tacit systemic acceptance of that type of behavior and attitude.

        As for why a bastard would want to be a cop? You don’t get to witness a man burning alive as a banker.

        As I said, it’s better here, but that doesn’t mean it’s fine or good.

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          I don’t know if anyone would think less of you because you’re not a german. That probably highly depends on what culture you’re from and more important: represent.

          According to said public statistics, many violent crimes are highly leaning towards certain groups. If I had to instantly judge your possible danger, those numbers surely factor in. Prejudice is nothing inherently bad, it’s a great survival mechanism. And considering they’re risking their health or even their life, they surely use quick prejudices.

          If you don’t replace the initial prejudgment with a real judgment after an interaction, that makes you a dumb bastard, cop or not.

          And surely no system is perfect. You cannot have every cop have undergo a total psychiatric assessment every month. You have one before even allowed to participate in the selection process. And who would screen the screener. A rotting society also begets rotting cops.

          But as a banker I can buy and burn down his whole street and watch videos of the suffering. Beats watching one man burn if you’re into sadism that is.

          From my POV it’s fine though. ICE is not fine. Not even close. And the worst German bastard cop is probably still better as a normal ICE-“cop”.