Not quite the same formulation, but I’ve read the argument that paternal leave should be equal to maternal leave, and that both should be mandatory, because otherwise it creates an incentive for companies to hire men rather than women who might make use of maternity leave. I can see a similar argument for all workers, so that there isn’t an incentive to hire people who will never have children over those who will.
Of course, all of these scenarios presume that any companies would willingly provide any leave whatsoever, which is already a fantasy. A company will only provide as many benefits as it is forced to, and a functioning regulatory state is the only entity that could force such compliance.
I work for a nonprofit, great company, and the paternity and maternity leaves are equal and as a child free man I think I deserve dog’ternity leave too. It’s really bullshit that time and money is carved out allocated and supported in that quantity only for folks having children. It’s not right, ternity leave should be for everyone.
Now that I look at it, the only folks at my office who have wfh days all have children. I think I need 6 months here before I can ask for a wfh day and unsure if it’ll be respected if I do.
How parental leave is in Finland:
Duration: A total of 320 weekdays (approx. 13.5 months), of which each parent has a quota of 160 days.
Transferability: From your own 160-day quota, you may transfer up to 63 days to the other parent, another caregiver in the family, or your partner.
Flexibility: The leave can be taken in several periods until the child turns 2 years old.
Pregnancy leave: The birth parent first takes 40 weekdays of pregnancy leave, after which the parental allowance period begins.
Simultaneity: Parents can be on parental leave at the same time for up to 18 weekdays.
I’m not against the idea, but I’m wondering what’s the trigger for non-child-havers? Or is it just the idea of a sabbatical?
On a sidenote, what’s the terms on parental leave? How soon after one can you take another? If you’re popping 'em out quick as can be, is it months off every 12 months?
Not quite the same formulation, but I’ve read the argument that paternal leave should be equal to maternal leave, and that both should be mandatory, because otherwise it creates an incentive for companies to hire men rather than women who might make use of maternity leave. I can see a similar argument for all workers, so that there isn’t an incentive to hire people who will never have children over those who will.
Of course, all of these scenarios presume that any companies would willingly provide any leave whatsoever, which is already a fantasy. A company will only provide as many benefits as it is forced to, and a functioning regulatory state is the only entity that could force such compliance.
I work for a nonprofit, great company, and the paternity and maternity leaves are equal and as a child free man I think I deserve dog’ternity leave too. It’s really bullshit that time and money is carved out allocated and supported in that quantity only for folks having children. It’s not right, ternity leave should be for everyone.
Now that I look at it, the only folks at my office who have wfh days all have children. I think I need 6 months here before I can ask for a wfh day and unsure if it’ll be respected if I do.
How parental leave is in Finland: Duration: A total of 320 weekdays (approx. 13.5 months), of which each parent has a quota of 160 days. Transferability: From your own 160-day quota, you may transfer up to 63 days to the other parent, another caregiver in the family, or your partner. Flexibility: The leave can be taken in several periods until the child turns 2 years old. Pregnancy leave: The birth parent first takes 40 weekdays of pregnancy leave, after which the parental allowance period begins. Simultaneity: Parents can be on parental leave at the same time for up to 18 weekdays.
I’m not against the idea, but I’m wondering what’s the trigger for non-child-havers? Or is it just the idea of a sabbatical?
On a sidenote, what’s the terms on parental leave? How soon after one can you take another? If you’re popping 'em out quick as can be, is it months off every 12 months?