• FistingEnthusiast
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    4 天前

    Your last point is sadly poignant

    I have always maintained that the civilised world dealt with the US because they had to, but held their nose

    That’s been more and more apparent since the early 2000s with Dubya

    But now, the curtain has been pulled back to show what everyone already knew

    The US is the biggest threat to the world, because of their greed and stupidity, and they are beholden to unscrupulous and cruel men from all over the world who either hold people in the US to ransom or appeal to their greed

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      You are absolutely right about George Bush, the “you are either with us or against us” comment did not land well among allies.
      And starting a war on a lie obviously wasn’t popular either. Also the fact that he was elected twice was a bad sign.

      And yes USA is the biggest threat to the world currently, it seems that even China has more respect for the sovereignty of other countries and international law. USA doesn’t even respect their own laws!! And self evidently definitely not international law.
      USA is a rogue nation with a madman at the rudder.

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        Lest we forget, the UK was fully aware that the reason for thr start of the war was a lie so I’m keen on keeping the UK at an arm’s length. Tony Blair was labour, so the two party system first past the post has already corrupted the UK beyond reproach. Agreements on trade, absolutely yes, on defence, only partial integration should be allowed. Keep AUKUS in mind, they will backstab us at the first opportunity.

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          EU is making somewhat similar deals with Canada and Japan who have joined the EU SAFE program.
          But yes I agree UK has some unfortunate exceptionalist tendencies, some Brits think that commonwealth makes them an empire. At least they behave that way.
          Also the commonality with other English speaking countries seem to make them think they are more important than they are, as being part of a club makes them special.
          Exceptionalism was a major part of the thought process behind Brexit.

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          I have predicted the shitfuckery with success for two decades now

          I’m so tired of being right

          This incursion into Iran was a distraction from further atrocity in Palestine, but more importantly, a land grab from Israel into Lebanon and when they get away with that, there will be further “settling” of surrounding areas while the West either ignores it for fear of being labelled bigots, or continues to quietly support it because it is beneficial to have an attack dog in the region, even if it is now the tail wagging the dog

          Israel wanted to move aggressively and needed the eye of the world to be elsewhere, or afraid of the accusation of antisemitism

          There will be a protracted land war in Iran which will provide a reason to suspend all elections in the US, so there will be no midterms that would overturn the current state of affairs

          If Drumpf lives long enough, it’ll be cause to suspend the 2028 election, and after that, all bets are off

          I’m desperate hoping that I’m wrong

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            Elections solve nothing in the US. Obama bombed more brown people than Bush Jr, he just had better PR. Black people were still murdered by the cops like nothing during dem rule and there is still no universal socialized healthcare in the US. The problem with the US is not Trump, is that the majority of the country is closer to being like Trump than they are civilised people.

            The IRA from Biden and the war in Ukraine were a carefully planned attack on EU’s energy independence and decoupling.

            Shit has hit the proverbial fan and we have only two choices:

            1. We get rid of the billionaires (through taxation) as a cautionary tale for future humans to maintain a glimpse of civilisation and repeat the French revolution Europe wide.
            2. We let the situation continue to degrade to the point where WWIII becomes a reality.
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              I agree

              I find it hilarious when the Dems are decried as “radical leftists”, because even AOC and Bernie Sanders are merely regarded as “yeah, but ain’t that shit obvious?” to the civilised world

              I spend quite a bit of time in the US, and I don’t consider it a civilised society

              I see people literally step over people who could be helped if the people of the country wanted them to be helped

              There is so much wealth in one country, and that people die from rationing insulin is obscene

              That’s not a word I use lightly, but what I see in the US is sickening to me

              And that’s just one of the many problems…

              I’d advocate for guillotines, but sadly, I have no faith in the American people to actually use them properly

              The people at the bottom are already armed, and they’re not doing anything except hurting other people in the same situation

              The US has more “guillotines” than they do people, but the population still don’t understand how to direct them