• @FrankTheHealer
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    61 year ago

    I’m confused though. Don’t banking/ finance apps require E2EE ?

    Also Password Managers, VPNs? Do these apps not need E2EE by default?

    • Neato
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      31 year ago

      Oh yeah. There’d either be carve-outs or congress would just knee-jerk against encryption (like they’ve nearly done before) and deal with the consequences later.

      • @Cabrio
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        1 year ago

        Why do Americans say carve-out, is it because illiterate TV media personalities couldn’t pronounce caveat?

          • @Cabrio
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            11 year ago

            Care to explain the difference? Google is struggling to bring up adequate definitions for carve-out, or why it’s different to caveat, and I see multiple sources using both, sometimes interchangeably.

            • Roboticide
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              11 year ago

              I mean, you’re the one claiming dumb Americans can’t pronounce English.

              Caveat is a noun. It’s a really old word, literally from ancient Latin meaning “let him beware.” Basically a warning, often noting that while something may seem great, there is often a notable problem.

              A carve out is a simple compound, and typically a verb, but can be used as a noun as seen above. It notes an exception (typically to a policy, practice, or law), often one specifically framed to benefit a specific group, at the expense of others.

              For example: “Congress’ new law creates strong regulations for CO2 emissions, but before you get excited, there’s one caveat: there are carve outs for automotive manufacturers, who won’t have to abide by those regulations until 2030.”

              • @Cabrio
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                A carve out is a simple compound, and typically a verb, but can be used as a noun as seen above. It notes an exception (typically to a policy, practice, or law)

                caveat /ˈkavɪat/ noun

                a warning or proviso of specific stipulations, conditions, or limitations. ‘there are a number of caveats which concern the validity of the assessment results’

                Emphasis mine.

                I understand now the purpose of it. Normally in non-americanised English, using your example, caveat is used as follows:

                “The deal has a caveat that x gets y” where caveat covers both meanings.

                But that’s been Americanised because you’re separating those meanings effectively saying “There’s a caveat, the caveat is x gets y” as, “There’s a caveat, the carve out is x gets y”.

                So, it isn’t that your TV personalities couldn’t speak, it’s because your contract writers were semi-literate.

                What were you saying about my English competency?

    • @MasterBlaster
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      21 year ago

      All the government needs is copies of the keys. Encryption remains in place for everybody else, so it is … Plausible.

      All these encryption bans are specifically encryptions thee governments cannot decrypt.