• Throwaway
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    391 year ago

    Well at least lemmy.world is starting to look more and more like shit. Can’t keep the servers up, keep defeding, absolute nonsense.

    • @TenthrowM
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      741 year ago

      The instance wasn’t defederated. Just the community blocked.

      • SteefLem
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        Why tho. I can block a community myself if i dont want to see it. This does not make sense.

        • @[email protected]
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          331 year ago

          They want to avoid lawsuit. Which are probably going to happen to dbzer0, I don’t know where they are hosted, but they might get in trouble once they reach a large userbase

          • @[email protected]
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            No pirated content is hosted on the instance. It’s just refugees from communities that already existed on reddit for years with no issues.

            • SteefLem
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              41 year ago

              I went over to my other account and got this https://lemm.ee/post/4235833

              Ive seen this account or at least the same kinda text with communities some dick wants to be defederated on all sort of instances. Looks like a troll

          • @EyesEyesBaby
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            211 year ago

            Then why doesn’t Reddit have that problem with r/piracy?

            • @echo64
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              They have lawyers to defend themselves.

            • @orientalsniper
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              61 year ago

              They do, they just have the manpower to deal with it.

            • @assassin_aragorn
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              11 year ago

              They’re corporate, the exact thing we want to avoid here.

        • @Zeth0s
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          141 year ago

          They are afraid of liabilities, maybe…

          • @DigitalPortkey
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            191 year ago

            There is no “maybe”, that’s exactly what it is (it’s in the OP’s link).

            Lemmy.world may be one of the largest instances but it never promised to be a straight Reddit clone. While it’s still figuring out scaling up and still attracting large DDOS attacks, the last thing they need to be dealing with is DMCA claims and letters from copyright lawyers.

            This is the beauty of federated social media. Don’t like the rules? Go somewhere else.

            • @Zeth0s
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              Me? I currently don’t care… I am not interested in that community, I know that people who are interested can still visit it from other instances.

          • SteefLem
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            Oh come on. Its not like world has pirated files on their server which they share with everyone or something. Its just info.

            If they are that scared might as well stop with setting up lemmy servers. Or block all that fucking kiddie hentai communities

            • Carighan Maconar
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              241 year ago

              And yet linking to legally finable content on servers run by other parties can incur fines on the order of 50k-250k over here in Germany. I’ll be honest, if I ran any we site I’d be removing anything can be constructed as such a link, too.

              Chances of me getting fined would be about 0, but it’s really not a risk I’d be willing to take. And this is the largest lemmy instance so if anyone where to go after lemmy, they’d go after world.

              • SteefLem
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                Are they linking files? If so then yeah i get it. Thought its just talk about piracy not xtual sharing

                • Carighan Maconar
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                  21 year ago

                  I remember they once tried to sue someone for linking to a torrenting site, so I’m not sure how linking to a piracy community works. AINAL. Just saying, in a way I can see admins rather wanting to stay as far away from such topics as they can, especially given how lemmy.world is the biggest lemmy target right now, hence the constant DDOS outages, too.

        • poVoq
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          Because community content is cached on other instances, so you can find all the content from these piracy communities under the lemmy.world domain as well and this is likely to be interpreted by law enforcement / a judge as hosting this content, which can get the server admins into legal trouble depending on the jurisdiction.

          • BrooklynMan
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            1 year ago

            IIRC, lemmy.world is hosted in the US, making them liable under US laws.

            edit: IR incorrectly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

            • poVoq
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              151 year ago

              They are actually hosted in Finland, but some of the admins are US based and can thus also get into legal trouble. Not sure about the legal situation in Finland.

        • Dojan
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          71 year ago

          The server and owner are in Europe. Though the anti piracy laws here are tough. Honestly can’t blame them.

          There are other instances that don’t have this issue though.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          It does. Defederating basically blocks all their communities and users for everyone on your instance. It’s a far bigger deal than blocking a community

          I still don’t agree with the decision, but it’s a matter of scale

    • @[email protected]
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      they are volunteers paying from their own wallets to keep this going. You aren’t entitled to anything on the fediverse. grow up.

    • @[email protected]
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      Reddit 2.0

      Edit: I saw I got lot of downvotes and I realize my mistake: This is not Reddit 2.0 because not even reddit was stupid enough to block their r/piracy.

      • @assassin_aragorn
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        11 year ago

        Turns out it’s easier for a corporation to defend themselves with lawyers than it is for the average Joe. Who would’ve guessed?