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They want to avoid lawsuit. Which are probably going to happen to dbzer0, I don’t know where they are hosted, but they might get in trouble once they reach a large userbase
There is no “maybe”, that’s exactly what it is (it’s in the OP’s link).
Lemmy.world may be one of the largest instances but it never promised to be a straight Reddit clone. While it’s still figuring out scaling up and still attracting large DDOS attacks, the last thing they need to be dealing with is DMCA claims and letters from copyright lawyers.
This is the beauty of federated social media. Don’t like the rules? Go somewhere else.
And yet linking to legally finable content on servers run by other parties can incur fines on the order of 50k-250k over here in Germany. I’ll be honest, if I ran any we site I’d be removing anything can be constructed as such a link, too.
Chances of me getting fined would be about 0, but it’s really not a risk I’d be willing to take. And this is the largest lemmy instance so if anyone where to go after lemmy, they’d go after world.
I remember they once tried to sue someone for linking to a torrenting site, so I’m not sure how linking to a piracy community works. AINAL. Just saying, in a way I can see admins rather wanting to stay as far away from such topics as they can, especially given how lemmy.world is the biggest lemmy target right now, hence the constant DDOS outages, too.
Because community content is cached on other instances, so you can find all the content from these piracy communities under the lemmy.world domain as well and this is likely to be interpreted by law enforcement / a judge as hosting this content, which can get the server admins into legal trouble depending on the jurisdiction.
They are actually hosted in Finland, but some of the admins are US based and can thus also get into legal trouble. Not sure about the legal situation in Finland.
The instance wasn’t defederated. Just the community blocked.
Why tho. I can block a community myself if i dont want to see it. This does not make sense.
They want to avoid lawsuit. Which are probably going to happen to dbzer0, I don’t know where they are hosted, but they might get in trouble once they reach a large userbase
No pirated content is hosted on the instance. It’s just refugees from communities that already existed on reddit for years with no issues.
I went over to my other account and got this https://lemm.ee/post/4235833
Ive seen this account or at least the same kinda text with communities some dick wants to be defederated on all sort of instances. Looks like a troll
Then why doesn’t Reddit have that problem with r/piracy?
They have lawyers to defend themselves.
They do, they just have the manpower to deal with it.
They’re corporate, the exact thing we want to avoid here.
They are afraid of liabilities, maybe…
There is no “maybe”, that’s exactly what it is (it’s in the OP’s link).
Lemmy.world may be one of the largest instances but it never promised to be a straight Reddit clone. While it’s still figuring out scaling up and still attracting large DDOS attacks, the last thing they need to be dealing with is DMCA claims and letters from copyright lawyers.
This is the beauty of federated social media. Don’t like the rules? Go somewhere else.
Me? I currently don’t care… I am not interested in that community, I know that people who are interested can still visit it from other instances.
Oh come on. Its not like world has pirated files on their server which they share with everyone or something. Its just info.
If they are that scared might as well stop with setting up lemmy servers. Or block all that fucking kiddie hentai communities
And yet linking to legally finable content on servers run by other parties can incur fines on the order of 50k-250k over here in Germany. I’ll be honest, if I ran any we site I’d be removing anything can be constructed as such a link, too.
Chances of me getting fined would be about 0, but it’s really not a risk I’d be willing to take. And this is the largest lemmy instance so if anyone where to go after lemmy, they’d go after world.
Are they linking files? If so then yeah i get it. Thought its just talk about piracy not xtual sharing
I remember they once tried to sue someone for linking to a torrenting site, so I’m not sure how linking to a piracy community works. AINAL. Just saying, in a way I can see admins rather wanting to stay as far away from such topics as they can, especially given how lemmy.world is the biggest lemmy target right now, hence the constant DDOS outages, too.
Because community content is cached on other instances, so you can find all the content from these piracy communities under the lemmy.world domain as well and this is likely to be interpreted by law enforcement / a judge as hosting this content, which can get the server admins into legal trouble depending on the jurisdiction.
IIRC, lemmy.world is hosted in the US, making them liable under US laws.
edit: IR incorrectly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They are actually hosted in Finland, but some of the admins are US based and can thus also get into legal trouble. Not sure about the legal situation in Finland.
oops!
The server and owner are in Europe. Though the anti piracy laws here are tough. Honestly can’t blame them.
There are other instances that don’t have this issue though.
Which doesn’t makes it less shitty.
It does. Defederating basically blocks all their communities and users for everyone on your instance. It’s a far bigger deal than blocking a community
I still don’t agree with the decision, but it’s a matter of scale