Nissan Leaf is like 30k and most people don’t travel more than 200 miles between charging opportunities the vast majority of the times they need a personal vehicle. Electric vehicles require less maintenance than combustion engines. EVs are a very reasonable choice for a large portion of Americans.
Are you searching from somewhere with huge EV taxes or tariffs? Those prices are way above MSRP, and I am searching from USA.
I know someone who recently bought the new Leaf SV+ and they didn’t pay $50k. I just checked Nissan’s website and it says the mid-grade (SV+) trim starts at $34230.
It clearly changes depending on where you are. Point still stands as these are before the fees are added and therefor well above $30K out the door.
I don’t think this is an EV issue, its just a clown world issue with new cars costing more then people can afford in general without going into debt (and many are maxed out on debt as it is).
cool. why would i want to drive a shit car from a shit brand like Nissan? or a chevy bolt! another shit brand with a shit car.
it’s a piece of shit vehicle. you can go buy one. I never will. you can lecture me and everyone else all day long, we aren’t changing our minds. but please, go ahead you can buy 6 EVs for yourself I guess?
I will buy a vehicle that suits my needs and preferences, from a brand that offers me value and reliable and quality. Not anything else.
Yes, because the statistics back that up. As much as EV superiority smug idiots want them not to. Sales are going down because people don’t want to buy these shitty cars and the market for them is a tiny amount of people who are buying them for luxury/vanity purposes.
EVs suck. Make them not suck and maybe people would buy them. You can’t argue people into buying your shitty product. Until EVs are cheap and easy to use as ICE they won’t ever be popular. Maybe in 20-30 years they will be worthwhile.
Nissan Leaf is like 30k and most people don’t travel more than 200 miles between charging opportunities the vast majority of the times they need a personal vehicle. Electric vehicles require less maintenance than combustion engines. EVs are a very reasonable choice for a large portion of Americans.
Uhhhh Yeah is like not 30k
I mean, they don’t need many options… but that the base price before all the reallllllly expensive fees are added.
That’s way over MSRP.
Are you searching from somewhere with huge EV taxes or tariffs? Those prices are way above MSRP, and I am searching from USA.
I know someone who recently bought the new Leaf SV+ and they didn’t pay $50k. I just checked Nissan’s website and it says the mid-grade (SV+) trim starts at $34230.
It clearly changes depending on where you are. Point still stands as these are before the fees are added and therefor well above $30K out the door.
I don’t think this is an EV issue, its just a clown world issue with new cars costing more then people can afford in general without going into debt (and many are maxed out on debt as it is).
cool. why would i want to drive a shit car from a shit brand like Nissan? or a chevy bolt! another shit brand with a shit car.
it’s a piece of shit vehicle. you can go buy one. I never will. you can lecture me and everyone else all day long, we aren’t changing our minds. but please, go ahead you can buy 6 EVs for yourself I guess?
I will buy a vehicle that suits my needs and preferences, from a brand that offers me value and reliable and quality. Not anything else.
Sure but that’s you and you’re claiming to speak for everyone in the country.
Yes, because the statistics back that up. As much as EV superiority smug idiots want them not to. Sales are going down because people don’t want to buy these shitty cars and the market for them is a tiny amount of people who are buying them for luxury/vanity purposes.
EVs suck. Make them not suck and maybe people would buy them. You can’t argue people into buying your shitty product. Until EVs are cheap and easy to use as ICE they won’t ever be popular. Maybe in 20-30 years they will be worthwhile.
They mostly suck because they became political. People hate them because they’re told to.
While EVs aren’t for everyone, they’ve been getting better and cheaper every year. They really can cover most people now.
That was where the incentive helped - to smooth out the market growth toward parity. But even without, at least some EVs are similar to ice prices.
But all new car prices are ridiculous, all new cars are loaded with surveillance, all new cars are screen oriented to various degrees. They all suck