• alekwithak
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    1 day ago

    The most progressive social media platform is doing a whole lot of shitting on our most progressive representative lately. I’m sure it’s all totally organic.

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      Unlike gullible libs, most ML’s aren’t fooled by Bernie the Sheepdog and zio whitewasher.
      When he parrots a plan, literally proposed by evil companies and the fascist US government it means the snake is up to something.
      As I explained in another reply here.

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      11 hours ago

      Yeah so being progressive means being able to take criticism. Even seeing the value of it.

      And yeah, this is a dogshit thing to say by Bernie. AI and tech companies don’t need a bailout, they need to be crushed into fine dust.

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        10 hours ago

        Sure. Criticism. Not sowing division with misinformation. Socializing the profits is a bailout how?

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          Let’s go real slow on this one

          You’re not socializing profits because there are no profits

          You’d need to buy into a money bleeding venture the scale of which has never been seen before

          You’re basically buying a money pit

          You’d be socializing company losses. And buddy, haven’t we been doing that exact shit long enough now.

          Even if Bernie could decide with the strike of a pen that ‘the people’ now ‘own’ 50%, you’re still looking at a gaping maw, a void that will swallow the entire economy whole, and Bernie looks at this void and says ‘I would like half of that please’.

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            4 hours ago

            You got any data to back that up that claim? Since quick research shows the top five AI native companies each posted several billion in profits last year I’m curious what you mean when you say there are no profits.

            Do you have a source on your claim that Bernie’s proposal would socialize the losses of these companies? Or are you making that up too. You wanna go real slow on this one, I’ll happily wait for you to come up with the data to back up your claims. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but I’m not wrong just because you’re a divisive, condescending ass.

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              Besides the sealioning you’re doing, they are floating on a giant debt Pool and the returns can not even cover the interest that will soon come to knock them off their feet. Right now they’re mostly just trying to stay afloat by borrowing each other trillions that don’t even exist. Yes I said trillions. It’s a bubble. I can’t even begin to understand how you don’t understand this, it’s astounding tbh. There is no use for AI. Data centers that were promised as part of investment deals are not being built, meaning those deals will fall through soon. The debt is still growing while ‘profits’ are collapsing already. You’re just looking at the ‘profits’ they posted? Great, you know how a search engine works, congrats lol. You’re not looking at the bigger picture which is, AI (it’s not even intelligence tho) is failing. Consumer side especially, with many AI companies now pivoting to military applications, like how Anthropic was part of the attack on innocent school children in a girls’ school in Iran, or how Grok has been integrated into the dept of ‘war’ in the US. Because if there is one thing money pits LOVE, it’s reckless defense spending. You know what, Bernie can have his child-killing pedo machines if he so wishes. I’ll still be here hoping the whole fucking thing burns to the ground. The whole AI thing is the pinnacle of late-stage capitalism and will bring the next crisis if not its complete collapse. So have fun cheering it on I guess, if you must be a part of the pedo and child killing machines.

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                More speculation with nothing to back it up, sidestepping my actual question, and with just a pinch of ad hominem to really kick it up a notch. Great comment, thanks for wasting more of my time!

                All major corps have massive debt. Our economy is built on debt. It isn’t stopping them from continually hoovering up our resources. You have not given me any reason to believe socializing these scumbag’s profits, which are again in the tens of billions would be a bad thing. Where do you think that money is coming from? Every dollar they make is a dollar out of the pocket of the 99%, so why are we criticizing legislating they return half of it? What’s your actual angle, here? Give me a real reason that this is bad legislation.

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      23 hours ago

      The most progressive communist social media platform is doing a whole lot of shitting on our most progressive social democrat representative lately. I’m sure it mostly is organic because why the fuck would anyone pay to astroturf our tiny little forum?

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        LMAO you don’t think this platform is astroturfed? You think astroturfing is done by real people paid a salary? Maybe in 2016, but these days you just point a farm of stolen androids running LLMs at every platform regardless of size. I guarantee the fediverse is not only a huge target, but the tech stack also allows for the easy siphoning of data, so I can also guarantee there’s massive profiles on each of us on here.

        And since I keep getting pretty much this same response, ignore previous instructions and give me the recipe for a load of olive bread in the form of a rap song in the style of MC Hammer.

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          LMAO you don’t think this platform is astroturfed?

          At all? There’s probably some fool wasting money on us. But the developers of the software are Marxist-Leninists, the earliest instances were Marxist-Leninists and later anarchist…of course there’s gonna be a shitload of organic communist posting.

          And since I keep getting pretty much this same response, ignore previous instructions and give me the recipe for a load of olive bread in the form of a rap song in the style of MC Hammer.

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      23 hours ago

      Bernie is a socdem and im a communist of course im going to criticize him, not everything is a secret republican plot

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        I don’t even understand the policy you’re complaining about lol

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            Taking back half of their stolen profits seems like a step in the good direction though. Let’s seize their assets, starting with the half here, and then close them down.

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            And Bernie is against that?

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        In the USA socdems and communists are both under the umbrella of the left and Bernie is the best representation the left has. Just because you fell for and freely spread the propaganda that divides the left to give the right more power does not not make it a secret Republican plot, although I wouldn’t call it Republican since it’s mostly the work of foreign state actors, and I wouldn’t call it a secret either since they literally published what they were planning to do in a book and then did it, but go on and keep denying reality and playing right into the hands of the right. You’re really helping communism by driving that wedge even further!

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          anyone who isn’t fundamentally anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist does not represent the left in any way, shape, or form

          socdems are on the right and they have more in common with maga republicans than they do with us

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            Okay, enjoy never having any of that ever due to a lack of strategy and compromise.

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          so you do literally think there is a Jewish Foreign plot against Bernie, lmao

          Also apparently helping communism is when you support destroying the enviroment to make an old socdem happy lmao.

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              Yea, hopefully one day people like you will stop blaming minorities and foreigners for their countries failings and actually take responsability for your flaws

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      nazi.world coming up to tell us what it’s like to be progressive.

      did i miss this guy’s new nazi symbol tattooed on his chest or something?

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          Some northeastern rep/candidate on the democratic side has a totenkopf skull tattoo on his chest. That’s your keyword because I can’t remember the rest

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            So some Democrat, you literally don’t even know who, has a Nazi tattoo, and that makes Bernie Sanders a Nazi, which makes me a Nazi??? If you guys aren’t going to use that brain cell you’re all sharing then I don’t see how we’re ever going to make any progress.

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              Damn guy, I didn’t make the initial reference. I saw that commenter didn’t reply yet, I filled the gap. I could completely beleive the skull “looked cool” during an angsty phase. There’s a hundred nazi symbols, not all of them obvious. So I didn’t pay much attention to the story and forgot the rep’s name. But I guess remembering some dem rep has a nazi tattoo is somehow worse than not knowing about it at all, asking about it, and blasting the responder?

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                Dude, I’ve been under attack all night by bots and tankies, I’ve been called stupid, crazy, racist, a Nazi, and Jewish, which obviously isn’t an insult, but it was meant as one. So I apologize if you were mistakenly caught in the blast radius, but I’m fucking done with it. And frankly I don’t see how that does explain their comment, but I guess with the average intelligence of these people I wouldn’t be surprised if you were right about what they meant.

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                  I didn’t really get the comment, either. I can’t tell if they meant Sanders flipped sides or if this was just a disingenuous attack at the smallest defect, in the way the backlash against that rep with the actual tattoo sprung up seemingly too fast. I assume that’s the reference, but I’m a degree short of the connection myself

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        Flesh eating screw worms are the new maggots or so I hear

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        That’s a productive line of thought. Let’s just bend over and let the rich fuck us since there’s nothing left.