The nearest abortion clinic – in Chicago – was too far away and too expensive for her mother to provide her with the procedure

  • @flossdaily
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    This is what Republicans want for all of us.

    If Republicans win the next election, they will institute a national abortion ban without exceptions for rape or incest.

    If you want to stop this, the only way to do so is to vote for Biden. I really hope people understand this.

    • @[email protected]
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      561 year ago

      What it’s going to take is to vote in Biden, then whoever the Democrats run in 2028, 2032, 2036. Until enough of the Republican justices die in office that actual jurists can replace them.

      • DessertStorms
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        It’s not even a way to stop them.
        Biden has literally been president during this whole Roe v Wade overturning.
        It’s so exhausting to see libs walk this line so close to being actual progressives, but not, all for their precious capitalism.
        You’re never going to beat the system by playing within the rules it’s set you, the house always wins.

          • @[email protected]
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            He could have pushed to have it codified.

            He could have also pushed student loan forgiveness for all borrowers instead of the bullshit means testing that got it shut down.

            • @[email protected]
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              Without 60 votes in the Senate, shit, without 50, it codification of abortion rights wasn’t happening. And he did push loan forgiveness, the Supreme Court shut that down.

              • @[email protected]
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                It got shut down because of the means testing he included. If he hadn’t excluded some borrowers it would have gone through.

                • @[email protected]
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                  Nope, it got shut down because the court ruled that it amounted to the executive appropriating money. Means testing is constitutional.

            • prole
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              It wasn’t the means testing that shut it down, if anything it wouldn’t have made it as far as it did without the means testing. As it is, people were already complaining that it was a giveaway to wealthy folks who don’t need it. Take away the income limit and it would have less than zero chance of succeeding.

              The president has very little power over legislative decisions. Yes, he could have used the bully pulpit to advocate for abortion legislation, but it would have accomplished nothing.

    • @[email protected]
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      Why can’t Biden do something to safeguard abortion in his current term?

      If he can’t do something on his current term, why will he be able to do something on his next one?

      • @flossdaily
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        Biden doesn’t have the authority to safeguard abortion. He had the authority to veto Congress. Biden would veto a nationwide abortion ban. Trump or any other Republican would not.

        Additionally, presidents appoint supreme Court justices in the event of a vacancy, or if Congress ever gets on board for expanding the court… do we’d need a Democrat in office if we’re ever going to reverse Dobbs.

          • @flossdaily
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            161 year ago

            No. It isn’t in the scope of executive powers.

            If there was a national law protecting the right to abortion, he could use executive orders to enforce that. But that isn’t the world we live in anymore.

      • Digitalprimate
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        It would take an act of congress, and the D’s don’t have the votes. Shitty but true.

      • @Eldritch
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        As others have stated. In the current environment there is not much Biden can do Beyond veto bad Republican legislation. Or if he’s lucky enough replace an outgoing Supreme Court Justice or other Federal Justice.

        The actual question to be asking is why in the last 50+ years. When there was much more support for, and ability to enshrine the right to an abortion in law. Did Senator Biden and all the other Democrats and even Republicans of the time not do anything and just kick the can down the road as they have. A criticism that could be commonly launched against them for many different things we are now facing. I wouldn’t say it’s malice or anything like that. But it’s definitely incompetence and a massive lack of foresight and honesty.

        • Xhieron
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          Which session of Congress should they have introduced that legislation in order to actually get it passed? Pick a year. It’s not a rhetorical question.

          It’s easy to cast blame when you don’t have to actually think about the realities of passing landmark legislation. The reality is that Roe v. Wade was the law of the land, and it was reasonable for Congress not to pull that thread both practically (don’t have the votes) and politically (why aren’t the Democrats doing x instead?).

          • @Eldritch
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            The next two sessions following January 22nd 1973. That accurate enough for you? Support for Roe vs Wade was near it’s highest. And those involved understood why.

            It’s easy to pretend that people don’t know the difficulty of passing landmark legislation. When you don’t have actual facts to dispute what they say. But that does not excuse legislators from never even trying. Which is the point. I can understand it being hard to pass legislation especially in today’s climate. Where Republicans are pretty much just against passing anything unless it’s xenophobic bigoted Etc. But no one of any party ever tried once to pass legislation in shrining and protecting it. And we can criticize them for not even trying.

            • Xhieron
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              Yeah! How dare Senator Biden not get sweeping legislation passed during his freshman term 50 years ago!

              There’s plenty to lay at Joe Biden’s feet if you want to criticize him–or his party–but grievances against the party barely holding back the tide of fascism because they didn’t stick their necks out on questionable legislation half a century ago strikes me as a little ridiculous. Has it not occurred to anyone throwing these tantrums that this SCOTUS would have swept away legislation just as easily as it swept away Roe?

              • @Eldritch
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                Who the fuck cares about Joe Biden specifically? There were a lot more Democrats who weren’t him than those who were him and none of them ever even tried. Ever.

                Say what you want about elected republicans. They are some of the worst human beings on earth. Truly horrible people. Hearts filled with selfishness and hate. But all that said. You still have to respect them. They fight to hurt the average person with a focus and a tenacity that cannot be extinguished. And it works. Democrats spent 50 years not even trying to enshrine or protect Roe. Republicans built an Empire on killing it. Democrats spent 50 years poo pooing and telling us that these crazy people would make rational decisions and never overturn roe. Only in the end to surprise Pikachu face when the crazies did the crazy thing that they’ve been screeching about for 50 years. Democrats caught with their pants down having done not a damned thing to protect it.

                It’s a valid criticism of democrats. And part of why people don’t vote for them. I’m not speaking for myself personally I vote against Republicans whenever I’m given the chance. And generally that means voting for Democrats in a red State like I am. I voted for Biden in 2020 and I will be voting for him again in 2024. people just want to feel like they are important, like they matter. People just want their representatives to fight with a fraction of the tenacity of the people trying to hurt them. It’s not too much to ask.

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      Voting is good, yes.

      So is protesting. We must use all the tools at our disposal, provided they are used to protect and support the most marginalized of our communities.