• ryantown
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    7 hours ago

    Yeah, what’s the surprise here? Turns out it’s expensive.

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      7 hours ago

      Microsoft was deceptive here and never made it clear exactly what sort of deal you were getting with the flat rate. There was no indication of the actual magnitude.

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        You’d have to be truly ignorant to not know that it was going to happen (not saying that you are). It’ll be interesting to see if there any legal recourse, but I’m guessing not.

        All of these companies are hemmoraging money to train and provide LLMs. The only option is to charge more. This current increase, IMO, is an alpha test for future increases. Unless there is a major jump in the technology, moreso the logic to train LLMs more efficiently, the cost has to keep going up to stay solvent for most of these major players.

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          I’m not talking about ignorance here, just one of the facts about how Microsoft was being shitty.

          Are you defending Microsoft’s choice to be shitty? Or just excited to share how you knew better?

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        5 hours ago

        It was easy to know how much the slop machine costs to run if you bothered to put even a tiny effort into finding out.

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        Yeah especially because they now have some convoluted method involving different counts of processing, cache etc. But the developer has no easy way of seeing those statistics and thus has no feel for them. And developers already have little control over how much tokens a task takes. Which was fine with the flat rate, just use the service. But now that those things actually matter, the stats should be way easier to see?

        So in typical Microsoft fashion not only did they raise prices they somehow made it even more shit. Like the AI already sucked, but does the service itself need to suck as well?

        Not being able to control costs and very vague productivity improvement claims makes the ROI impossible to calculate. So even if the AI wasn’t shit, it would still be hard to figure out if it’s even helping at all.

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            4 hours ago

            Well, the point here is the deception. So, if you can find a similar link from the past from Microsoft…

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        7 hours ago

        It was very much a red flag when they shut down signups.