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- kentucky
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- kentucky
Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear is directly asking Sen. Mitch McConnell, the state’s most powerful figure in Congress, to disclose more about his condition after three weeks of silence from the 84-year-old since he was hospitalized in Washington.
The letter released Wednesday from Beshear, a Democrat who is considered a potential presidential candidate in 2028, to the former Senate Republican leader says “Kentuckians have grown increasingly concerned about the current state of your health and well-being, and ability to hold office.”
McConnell, whose physical condition has visibly declined in recent years, was hospitalized June 14. He has not released a public statement, photos or videos since. Aides have disclosed nothing specific about his condition, other than to say last week that McConnell “continues to improve, and is working closely with his staff on Kentucky and Senate matters while the Senate is out of session.”
That lack of detail has fueled rampant speculation about his prognosis and whether he will return to the Senate when it reconvenes next week. The firestorm was enough that Republican Senate leaders on Tuesday made public statements saying they had talked to McConnell and that he was alert and discussing current events.
McConnell is retiring at the end of his term in January, and the campaign to elect his successor already is underway. Kentucky’s Senate succession law, which Republican legislators have twice changed during Beshear’s tenure, does not give the governor a role in picking a temporary successor should McConnell’s seat become vacant before his term ends.
Under the latest change in 2024, if the seat becomes vacant before Aug. 3, there would be a special election to pick a replacement, perhaps held concurrently with the general election in November. The special election winner could take office nearly immediately. The general election winner would be sworn in as part of the new Congress in January.
I hate that these people act like they have better things to do than walk into the hospital and find out for themselves. What is stopping him or a democratic senator from going to the hospital with a camera and finding out for themselves. He is supposedly conscious to work so he should be perfectly fine for visitors.
HIPAA. Apart from anything else, the hospital would stop them. You don’t get to visit someone in the hospital unless the patient wants you to.
Walking around in a hospital and seeing that other people are there isn’t a HIPAA violation. Asking someone to prove they are alive, or have certain medical conditions is not a HIPAA violation. Sharing your own medical info is not a HIPAA violation.
A hospital sharing personally identifiable medical information with an outside party beyond some very strict scenarios, is a violation of HIPAA.
You must have had different HIPAA training than I did.
We were told we couldn’t even acknowledge whether or not a person was a patient without permission from the patient.
Walking around a hospital is one thing. Walking into a patient’s room to confront them is something completely different. A hospital would have a responsibility to prevent that from happening.
Yeah, probably. I was on the IT side of things, we had very specific training on what was PII, what wasn’t PII, who that info could be shared with, and had to roleplay example scenarios of what would be a HIPAA violation and what wouldn’t.
Your example…
How I stated that situation would be covered by HIPAA
A healthcare provider, saying to a random caller, “He (Mitch in this case) is at this hospital” would identify a person, and match them to a location, and that would be a breach of HIPAA. That random person going on the news, or sharing that info with other people would NOT be a HIPAA violation.
That’s all fine, but none of that relates to what I was responding to.
I was responding to this:
HIPAA would definitely require the hospital to prevent a democratic senator from going into the hospital with a camera.
Even if they got to the lobby with the camera, they damn sure shouldn’t be permitted to point the camera at any patient regardless of whether he was a traitorous scumbag senator or just a regular person.
Just about everyone in the USA goes into the hospital with multiple cameras in their pockets.
Taking pictures of people in the hospital without their consent is probably against the law, but it’s definitely not a violation of HIPAA on the hospital’s part if someone (not employed by the hospital) does it.
What we’re talking about is someone going into a patient’s room in which the patient presumably doesn’t want them there. The hospital would definitely have a responsibility to prevent that.
Definitely. Not a HIPAA violation though.
I’ve called hospitals to see if someone was there and that’s normal practice. If my loved one is incapacitated why would you think the hospital can’t tell anyone? You’re sticking up for special treatment of the worst criminals and traitors.
And yes, a journalist can go into a hospital and use their fucking brains, for once. They can get a damned good idea if he’s alive in there. Yet they don’t. Because they aren’t fucking journalists. They are influencers.
If the hospital actually gave you this info without you being authorized to have it, then they broke the law. Happens all the time, but the person identified at the hospital would have a pretty strong lawsuit in this scenario.
We recently(ish) went through this with my Grandmother-in-law. She was hospitalized, her abusive and estranged daughter called and confirmed that she was in the hospital, and then went over to Grandma’s place and started “taking her inheritance.” IE, stealing grandma’s shit while she was dying. Grandma actually survived her hospital stay, and we sued for a bit of restitution.
In the U.S. the difference is whether or not the hospital has permission from the patient.
If the patient has not given permission for the information to be released, then the hospital isn’t allowed to release it. There’s no gray area there.
I’m not sticking up for special treatment for criminals and traitors. I’m saying that everyone gets to say what information is released about their healthcare. As it should be.
For actual criminals, the police can get a warrant to get information.
And yes, a journalist can try to get information, and the hospital has a responsibility to do everything they can to prevent that.
The question was:
And my answer was the hospital. Because the hospital has a responsibility to protect the privacy of all their patients.
Know any hospitals they enforce that at? The ones I’ve been to, if you know the room number you can go up
The hospitals you know must be pretty bad.
Where I work you can go to the lobby or the gift shop, but you can’t get into a patient area without permission. The doors won’t open for you.
Same goes for hospitals where I’ve visited family. I have to call in from the panel at the door to get someone from the nurse’s station to let me in.
You won’t hear any argument on them being shitty hospitals. The only door in the entire facility with that kind of security is the icu entrance.
I’ve never experienced this in any state I’ve been in and I’ve been to plenty of hospitals. Not once.
Room number and name. You can’t just say I want to go to room 203.
Last time i went i got the room so wrong it didn’t even exist, they never asked for clarification or a name they just gave me a name tag and sent me along.
This is every single fucking hospital I’ve ever been to, and I’ve been wrong entirely about a room number and they just let me through anyways.
Not for a sitting senator…
There it is. Oh he’s special/above us all and apparently we should just expect that shit treatment.
That’s funny they just let me in the hospital and I can see with my own eyeballs people in their rooms and I can see their paperwork on their beds, clearly.
So is it that he gets special treatment or just the right treatment and the rest of us are just expected to be treated like shit on a shoe in a hospital?
Well, shitty hospitals exist. That doesn’t mean that what they’re doing is right.
Beshear IS finding out for himself, and for Kentucky, in a legally accountable way. For a governor, that is absolutely the correct way.
Between the change in how Kentucky fills a vacant office that McConnell himself pushed through in 2024 and the current R attempts to hide McConnell’s true condition, when the lawsuits roll – and they absolutely will – a letter goes a hell of a lot farther than a visit.
I am willing to bet Beshear gives far more of a personal shit about how to end the situation that he and the rest of Kentucky are being held hostage to by McConnell’s true condition than about seeing the guy in a hospital bed.
Here’s the letter, for anyone who wants to read it for themselves; note that it was sent to McConnell’s Senate address in DC, the address where McConnell’s legal correspondence as US Senator would be directed, and is addressed to him not personally, but in that senatorial legal capacity. This isn’t a get-well-soon note, though it may initially appear that way; it is a courteously and very carefully worded legal notice:
https://governor.ky.gov/attachments/20260708_McConnell-Letter.pdf
Lol what a joke that people believe this.
You can visit people in a hospital. That’s fucking normal. Why are you all acting like that wouldn’t be legally accountable or wrong for the governor to do? They’ve got you twisted and fucked in the head.
And so many things are happening that aren’t legal at all and democrats do the exact same thing about those. So yea, fool me once… sure. But they fool you everyday for a decade. Don’t you feel shame for insisting these words are meaningful when the democrats actions have spoken already?
Not from here, are ya?
I bet there is HEAVY security around his room. Or possibly the morgue.
Underground command center
HIPPA probably. He’s probably not in a room accessible to the general public and though the governor might be able to get access using his position, disclosing anything learned from that access would likely violate HIPPA. And I’m sure Trump would love for that to happen. It’s possible he’s even keeping quiet just to bait something like that.
The governor isn’t a health provider so HIPAA doesn’t apply to him. If he learns anything about the Senator’s condition he is free to shout it from the rooftops.
If he learns those facts from the hospital then they are on the hook for HIPAA.
No one but medical professionals are bound by hippa. Jesus Christ yall can not be out here tossing out made up laws that just so happen to stop the people from getting the truth. You’re being a good useful idiot right now.
I have nothing to do with what he will or won’t do. I’m not tossing out reasons to not do it but guesses as to why he hasn’t or won’t. Go fuck yourself.