Ideology and belief evolves, sometimes for better and sometimes for worse. And how can it be a copy paste when the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed was a being far and removed from any human flaw or negative characteristic? A God of rules, justice and mercy, not just a dude banging women in the skies, lol. Doesn’t seem like much was copied, unless you’re saying Roman Catholicism went full anthropormphic like the false deities of old and you’d be right but it’s a false religion based on a real Jew they killed anyway.
And maybe, sometimes God inspires people. Solomon and his Ecclesiastes are good examples of writings that, considering their time, could go either way! Of course, if you don’t believe in God, you can’t believe in divine revelation (and you probably don’t understand belief at all, you think it’s a subset of the thoughts one can have on material reality when it is not), and I won’t push either, DW.
So if the evolution of faith is good or bad, how do the incredibly flawed humans of your particular brand of belief figure out what’s right? Accident of birth as the overwhelmingly majority of humans ‘discover’ their faith.
I mean this as a good faith question, so to speak. If faith can go down the wrong path and all evolution of various shared beliefs isn’t created equal, what is the ‘right’ one?
By your own belief, we cannot know the mind of Yahweh, God, Allah, etc. So how do you know you picked the right one?
Change in uhh religious ideology is good when it’s a mistaken take, far from what God wants us to do and a product of human ignorance and maliciousness, and bad when it’s just a whim because one disagrees with God’s takes. As examples of things that changed for the worse and now could change again for the better, we have the Paulian doctrine (God is three, one of them is prophet J-man, and if you believe Jesus is God you’re automatically saved, so you can be as immoral as possible and it doesn’t matter) at the core of every Trinitarian belief that supplanted Jesus’ message, or the amoral takes of some early Judaic so called scholars, or the Hadiths (meant to be sayings of or about prophet Muhammad) that often run entirely opposed to the Qur’an and are blatant ways to excuse immirality…
I follow the word of God as specified in the Qur’an, and also as specified in the Qur’an I believe and understand the messages of Moses, Solomon and Jesus. Nobody who competently reads or knows about what they said and did can say they were all ideologically different: it’s one set of fundamental beliefs, that God made us and will judge our judgement, which is at the core of it all. And it’s not that hard to understand what right or wrong is, even babies have an innate sense for it after all, and more complicated moral questions just require more brainpower (and for whatever that is very iffy, like idk assisted suicide, God will understand we’re just little ignorant, incomplete beings at our core, as he made us)
And there’s no right one, lol, you just used different names for the same Creator entity. Whatever you call God, just know you’ll meet Him. And, again, I don’t think any prophet of God came spreading messages celebrating immorality, they kinda all say the same thing. Even the famous Jesus prayer has similar vibes to Al-Fatiha.
I’m well aware he’s just regurgitating dogmatic slop. Catholic survivor myself, so it’s always at least marginally amusing to try to adjudicate the logical underpinnings of said dogma with blind adherents.
Ideology and belief evolves, sometimes for better and sometimes for worse. And how can it be a copy paste when the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed was a being far and removed from any human flaw or negative characteristic? A God of rules, justice and mercy, not just a dude banging women in the skies, lol. Doesn’t seem like much was copied, unless you’re saying Roman Catholicism went full anthropormphic like the false deities of old and you’d be right but it’s a false religion based on a real Jew they killed anyway.
And maybe, sometimes God inspires people. Solomon and his Ecclesiastes are good examples of writings that, considering their time, could go either way! Of course, if you don’t believe in God, you can’t believe in divine revelation (and you probably don’t understand belief at all, you think it’s a subset of the thoughts one can have on material reality when it is not), and I won’t push either, DW.
So if the evolution of faith is good or bad, how do the incredibly flawed humans of your particular brand of belief figure out what’s right? Accident of birth as the overwhelmingly majority of humans ‘discover’ their faith.
I mean this as a good faith question, so to speak. If faith can go down the wrong path and all evolution of various shared beliefs isn’t created equal, what is the ‘right’ one?
By your own belief, we cannot know the mind of Yahweh, God, Allah, etc. So how do you know you picked the right one?
Change in uhh religious ideology is good when it’s a mistaken take, far from what God wants us to do and a product of human ignorance and maliciousness, and bad when it’s just a whim because one disagrees with God’s takes. As examples of things that changed for the worse and now could change again for the better, we have the Paulian doctrine (God is three, one of them is prophet J-man, and if you believe Jesus is God you’re automatically saved, so you can be as immoral as possible and it doesn’t matter) at the core of every Trinitarian belief that supplanted Jesus’ message, or the amoral takes of some early Judaic so called scholars, or the Hadiths (meant to be sayings of or about prophet Muhammad) that often run entirely opposed to the Qur’an and are blatant ways to excuse immirality…
I follow the word of God as specified in the Qur’an, and also as specified in the Qur’an I believe and understand the messages of Moses, Solomon and Jesus. Nobody who competently reads or knows about what they said and did can say they were all ideologically different: it’s one set of fundamental beliefs, that God made us and will judge our judgement, which is at the core of it all. And it’s not that hard to understand what right or wrong is, even babies have an innate sense for it after all, and more complicated moral questions just require more brainpower (and for whatever that is very iffy, like idk assisted suicide, God will understand we’re just little ignorant, incomplete beings at our core, as he made us)
And there’s no right one, lol, you just used different names for the same Creator entity. Whatever you call God, just know you’ll meet Him. And, again, I don’t think any prophet of God came spreading messages celebrating immorality, they kinda all say the same thing. Even the famous Jesus prayer has similar vibes to Al-Fatiha.
This guy ain’t too bright
He just parrots the talking points he’s learnt in his cult
I’m well aware he’s just regurgitating dogmatic slop. Catholic survivor myself, so it’s always at least marginally amusing to try to adjudicate the logical underpinnings of said dogma with blind adherents.