Again, are you footing the bill for that or just preserving yourself while saying “fuck you, good luck” to the masses who are to poor to leave their entire lives behind?
You can tell he has money, with his absolute callous incapability of considering other people cant just afford to uproot their lives and move to another country, even if they spent years planning for it.
Pretty sure the cost of physically moving is the easy part too. You need to be allowed to work at your destination if you have any chance at surviving for long.
A single month rent is enough money to get to almost any country on the planet. But good luck actually moving to a lot of them with that.
You need to ship anything that you need, thats practical to ship (small, personal, important items that wont fit in airplane luggage).
You need at least 6 months of money to cover rent, food, application fees, transportation (whether public or purchasing a vehicle), possibly even more if the country has a “prove you wont be a state burden minimum bank balance” rules, until such time as you get residency paperwork allowing you to work, before you ever begin to work on citizenship.
Depeneding on where you went, you might also have to take language classes to learn how to speak and write in a different language.
plus even more money for just for random happenstance, emergency, recreation (because yes, even poor people deserve to have some recreation), etc.
You’re not just gonna step off an airplane with 2 grand in your pocket and get a place to live and start a new life.
To add to that, in most cases you can’t just move to some country and start looking for a job, even if you have money for the expenses:
You typically need to have a job offer before you can get permission to stay long term. Without that, the most you’ll be able to get is probably a short-term tourist visa, which typically does not allow you to work in the country. And most places aren’t going to hire somebody who isn’t legally allowed to work for them. And if you do find somebody who would employ you (legally), while in the country on a tourist visa, then you’d likely have to leave the country to apply for a work visa.
The kind of job that is eligible for a work visa (and residency) also depends on the “prove you wont be a state burden” rules like the ones you mention, which typically means that you have to have the right qualifications. Most people don’t. And you need to stay employed long-term, as you will likely be kicked out of the country if you lose your job and can’t find something equivalent within a short period of time.
There are of course exceptions to all this, but those are just that: exceptions
Pay for what? Yes things cost money, organizing does too. Sorry you have Stockholm syndrome about a country of people that votes for you to go away and die.
Pay for emigration / legal fees, plane tickets, new housing / rent while they secure a job (assuming they’re even allowed to work)?
I’m sorry you lack compassion and empathy for those who are dumb enough to believe themselves to be your enemy. Except for the real enemies, as determined by the value of their net worth. I’m sorry you’re so selfish that you would rather preserve yourself from hypothetical, future harm (because I’m guessing you’re a relatively privileged white liberal, could be wrong) than work to protect other people from real, present harm. I’m sorry you lack any moral fortitude.
No youre right dude im a secret billionaire and when you go to your first protest the rest of the country will realize their mistakes and we’ll live in utopia, too bad ill miss it because i emigrated and didn’t keep the faith
“Oh I’m sorry I didn’t realize I had to recommend things that are realistic”
Liberal spotted lol. Working class organization is the solution, not running away.
Get organized in a different country the us government hates you and wants to kill you and that’s what the majority vote in favor of.
Again, are you footing the bill for that or just preserving yourself while saying “fuck you, good luck” to the masses who are to poor to leave their entire lives behind?
Ellen DeGeneres type shit.
You can tell he has money, with his absolute callous incapability of considering other people cant just afford to uproot their lives and move to another country, even if they spent years planning for it.
Pretty sure the cost of physically moving is the easy part too. You need to be allowed to work at your destination if you have any chance at surviving for long.
A single month rent is enough money to get to almost any country on the planet. But good luck actually moving to a lot of them with that.
You need plane tickets.
You need to ship anything that you need, thats practical to ship (small, personal, important items that wont fit in airplane luggage).
You need at least 6 months of money to cover rent, food, application fees, transportation (whether public or purchasing a vehicle), possibly even more if the country has a “prove you wont be a state burden minimum bank balance” rules, until such time as you get residency paperwork allowing you to work, before you ever begin to work on citizenship.
Depeneding on where you went, you might also have to take language classes to learn how to speak and write in a different language.
plus even more money for just for random happenstance, emergency, recreation (because yes, even poor people deserve to have some recreation), etc.
You’re not just gonna step off an airplane with 2 grand in your pocket and get a place to live and start a new life.
Yeah, unless your goal is to immediately be a homeless illegal immigrant. Good luck with that.
To add to that, in most cases you can’t just move to some country and start looking for a job, even if you have money for the expenses:
You typically need to have a job offer before you can get permission to stay long term. Without that, the most you’ll be able to get is probably a short-term tourist visa, which typically does not allow you to work in the country. And most places aren’t going to hire somebody who isn’t legally allowed to work for them. And if you do find somebody who would employ you (legally), while in the country on a tourist visa, then you’d likely have to leave the country to apply for a work visa.
The kind of job that is eligible for a work visa (and residency) also depends on the “prove you wont be a state burden” rules like the ones you mention, which typically means that you have to have the right qualifications. Most people don’t. And you need to stay employed long-term, as you will likely be kicked out of the country if you lose your job and can’t find something equivalent within a short period of time.
There are of course exceptions to all this, but those are just that: exceptions
i glossed over procedural in my focus on the cost, but you are right.
It takes time, and a proper procedure, that typically starts months before you even enter the country.
Yeah exactly
Pay for what? Yes things cost money, organizing does too. Sorry you have Stockholm syndrome about a country of people that votes for you to go away and die.
Pay for emigration / legal fees, plane tickets, new housing / rent while they secure a job (assuming they’re even allowed to work)?
I’m sorry you lack compassion and empathy for those who are dumb enough to believe themselves to be your enemy. Except for the real enemies, as determined by the value of their net worth. I’m sorry you’re so selfish that you would rather preserve yourself from hypothetical, future harm (because I’m guessing you’re a relatively privileged white liberal, could be wrong) than work to protect other people from real, present harm. I’m sorry you lack any moral fortitude.
Well you got everything about me wrong which is understandable because you literally know nothing about me
Can’t all be wrong, some of it was just your own words.
No youre right dude im a secret billionaire and when you go to your first protest the rest of the country will realize their mistakes and we’ll live in utopia, too bad ill miss it because i emigrated and didn’t keep the faith
No one said “billionaire” lol, trying to change the argument because you’re definitely privileged
You’re not very good at this
Probably only a few years away from being able to claim refugee status in Canada or Mexico though.