AOC must run for president. If she doesn’t, she is leaving significant gains on the table. Not gains for her; gains for the movement, for the working class, for progress, and for the world.
AOC must run for president. If she doesn’t, she is leaving significant gains on the table. Not gains for her; gains for the movement, for the working class, for progress, and for the world.
Why does this sub think her identity will stop her? Incumbents ALWAYS struggle with reelection when the economy is bad.
YOU could run in 2028, and probably beat the republicans.
I’m not saying it will stop her, I’m saying it’s going to make it really tough. It’s hard for women, and it’s hard for people of color. Hello.
Just keep pandering to racist misogynists instead. Great advice, standing for nothing except the status quo has done so well for your candidates previously.
Nah, it’s all a pendulum effect. Being in the right place at the right time. Yes identity matters, but if the race isn’t too polarizing, those low info voters will stay home instead of voting against a woman or minority.
There won’t be any incumbents in 2028.
Or at least, there sure as Hell aren’t supposed to be!
Incumbent party. McCain had to carry the baggage of the last 8 years of Bush despite never even being in his administration.
I think “can a woman win” with be a popular attack by centrists in the primary. Same thing they did with Warren when she was briefly leading. They’ll yas queen the shittiest empty pantsuits and cheer minority voices right up until the woman or minority is progressive, then they’ll JAQ off incessantly about whether they can win the vote of their MAGA uncle who was never going to vote Democrat in the first place. And if they don’t have a MAGA uncle they’ll imagine one to wring their hands over.
AOC can win, but the centrists are going to do a lot of “I’m not sexist, but” the whole primary and try to get a bunch of normies to become political pundits and vote for someone who says nothing “because it’s electable”.
I don’t think centrist attacks of “can a woman win” in the 2028 primary will even work consider AOC and Kamala are 2 of the front runners in polling/enthusiasm. The only male up there with them is Newsom. There is no Biden-like candidate with the Obama rub to skirt by.
AOC is in prime position in 2028 as long as there’s no other DSA-like candidate splitting their vote.
Honestly her biggest challenge in 2028, is gonna be the progressive biggest challenge in 2016 and 2024 that they keep ignoring. THE BLACK VOTERS! Bernie refused to target that demo, despite them making up a huge portion of the democratic electorate, and right now Kamala is polling around 35%-45% of the black vote. If she walks into South Carolina/Super Tuesday with those numbers, she gonna be the nominee easily.
Fortunately for AOC, she more motion with black voters than Bernie and has actually been reaching out to them this year on her media events.
i recall reading a Reddit post last year by a black American man on why they don’t vote or participate, and one of his points of rationale was that regardless who gets elected, none of them solve problems for the black community and things stay the same so it isn’t worth it. This echoes what you’re saying about no attention being paid to them.
That person is more aligned with the “enlightened centrist” than we are. Theres a decent amount of them in the black community, who just complain about politics as whole, but will entertain Trump because he’s “different”, but still won’t vote because the community will hold it against them.
They do not represent actual black voters, they are more like your average modern populist. Reliable black voters know the game of politics, black folks tend to vote more collectively than individual. Hence why the Dems consistently get 80%+ of the black vote in the general and 1 candidate becomes the clear front runner for black voters in the primary.
Possibly. I just noted the similarity. I’m not black or American so I’ve only got their word to go on, and it echoes the point of reps not speaking to the black vote.
I don’t really think this delusion that Harris is a viable candidate will last until 2028, and if she’s gone every single name being trial-ballooned is a white man.
On Black voters, AOC is from the Bronx. She doesn’t have the same blinders as Bernie. The real problem isn’t the black voters in general, it’s that the DNC chose older and more conservative South Carolina to represent them and loaded it right up front to set an expectation. Maryland and Georgia both have a greater proportion of black voters and they have a different political lean.
Progressives need to stop complaining about South Carolina and stay on message. Like you said Georgia and Maryland, and even throw North Carolina in there, have a high concentration of black voters, where a majority of them are to the left of SC’s black population. But progressives forget this.
AOC is not winning SC without some major endorsements and a heavily cracked field. But she dosent need to, John Kerry already showed it’s possible to win the nomination without it by making sure your coalition is strong elsewhere.
I mean, I see where you’re coming from, but it’s all awful lot like “when they go low, we go high”, which just allows people without shame to get away with abuse. SC as the first state IS a dirty move that’s not about representation or maximizing Democratic chances. And the decision is like a couple days old, so “stop complaining” is a little premature.
I think a woman and PoC absolutely can win the DNC primary.
But let’s be real here. The #1 disqualifying trait of HRC and Harris was their obvious lack of external genetalia.
It had nothing to do with the sham of a primary. It had nothing to do with Israel.
The fact is after all the bullshit that happened 2020-2024, 2 million more people still found Donald
motherchild-fucking Trump more appetizing than Harris.And I don’t think all of those people chose Trump on policy or track record. They were all at least 12 during Trump’s first term, they have no excuse.
Okay, I’ll be real: that’s a blatant fucking lie designed to try to shift blame away from liberals’ failed policy platform.
Lol. No.
Convenient excuse if you want to pin the failures of bland centrist campaigns run by revolving door consultants on women though.