While I love that right-wingers are constantly wrong about pretty mich all things, did anyone like… suspect otherwise?
We have known for a while now that pretty much every “opinion” (I am cheritable with that word here) they hold on the topic is rife with propaganda, hate and bigotry.
I add it to the pile they will never read and that we can push into their faces.
I work with a lot of conservatives. Talking about studies like this and pushing back gently really does work, at least on an individual level. It’s frustrating and slow moving, but I’ve been able to get them to stop and think about what respecting others really means.
It’s like the bullshit asymmetry principle. You can spend months working on a conservative, getting them to trust you, and nudge their world-view from “hateful” to “iffy”. Meanwhile, they half-watch fox news for an hour and are ready to put {out-group} into a death camp.
It sucks. It feels unfair. Why do we have to do all this work when they’re the fuckups?
I mean, it has little to do with them being fuck ups and more to do with asymmetrical power and argument structures. They’ll get their talking points from fox first, so they get anchoring bias towards their position. Fox uses anger and fear to override logic, so their talking points are more memorable. Lastly, fox uses in/out group thinking, so attempting to argue someone out of one their positions can lead to social isolation from their peers.
So, you have a bunch of mad or scared people, repeating the first thing they heard about the thing that made them mad or scared, and they’ll experience extreme cognitive dissonance and fear of ostracization if you successfully convince them they’re wrong. It’s kind of a no-brainer why it’s hard to convince people away from those positions.
This was one of the reasons for the fairness doctrine, so a media group can’t just unilaterally decide to indoctrinate a whole swath of the public.
I don’t disagree with you. I was being flippant by describing “falling into the fox News disinformation black hole” as being a fuck-up. We’re all vulnerable to that kind of thing, thigh.
We’ve known this. The study that showed people regretting transition that hateful people point to? They left out the fine print. The regret came from being treated like shit by awful people.
While I love that right-wingers are constantly wrong about pretty mich all things, did anyone like… suspect otherwise?
We have known for a while now that pretty much every “opinion” (I am cheritable with that word here) they hold on the topic is rife with propaganda, hate and bigotry.
I add it to the pile they will never read and that we can push into their faces.
Edit: Spelling
I work with a lot of conservatives. Talking about studies like this and pushing back gently really does work, at least on an individual level. It’s frustrating and slow moving, but I’ve been able to get them to stop and think about what respecting others really means.
It’s like the bullshit asymmetry principle. You can spend months working on a conservative, getting them to trust you, and nudge their world-view from “hateful” to “iffy”. Meanwhile, they half-watch fox news for an hour and are ready to put {out-group} into a death camp.
It sucks. It feels unfair. Why do we have to do all this work when they’re the fuckups?
I do it because I work with them every day and, if you’ve seen me around Lemmy enough, I can’t keep my mouth shut.
I wouldn’t work on these people unless they were in my family, coworkers, or otherwise.
I mean, it has little to do with them being fuck ups and more to do with asymmetrical power and argument structures. They’ll get their talking points from fox first, so they get anchoring bias towards their position. Fox uses anger and fear to override logic, so their talking points are more memorable. Lastly, fox uses in/out group thinking, so attempting to argue someone out of one their positions can lead to social isolation from their peers.
So, you have a bunch of mad or scared people, repeating the first thing they heard about the thing that made them mad or scared, and they’ll experience extreme cognitive dissonance and fear of ostracization if you successfully convince them they’re wrong. It’s kind of a no-brainer why it’s hard to convince people away from those positions.
This was one of the reasons for the fairness doctrine, so a media group can’t just unilaterally decide to indoctrinate a whole swath of the public.
I don’t disagree with you. I was being flippant by describing “falling into the fox News disinformation black hole” as being a fuck-up. We’re all vulnerable to that kind of thing, thigh.
Yep, and this is one of the best things cis allies can do to help
We’ve known this. The study that showed people regretting transition that hateful people point to? They left out the fine print. The regret came from being treated like shit by awful people.