• BenLeMan
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    16 hours ago

    FACT.

    Does anyone here know why it’s unreliable?

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      6 hours ago

      In my case it’s mostly that browsers and as such also electron Apps unfocus textboxes when the window is unfocused for seemingly no reason, sometimes without giving visual indication meaning that I need to reselect it to copy it.

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      16 hours ago

      It wasn’t always like this.

      I swear every version of Windows between 3.11 and XP was 100% reliable. Then it just started… slipping.

      What’s weird is that it often works on the second try.

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        14 hours ago

        If you’ve ever looked at windows desktop application source code (shudder) they have all this wacky shit around event handling in their native C/C++ APIs, which is a lot less clean that what you typically see in other languages / platforms which do similar event handling. It wouldn’t surprise me if that shit is hacky and buggy as fuck on the OS side of that implementation too.

        So this would be your ctrl-c press event, and whatever handler code.

        Though it’s been like 20 years since I looked at some of this. Maybe it’s better now, but somehow I doubt it.

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      13 hours ago

      Because your company makes you use Azure Virtual Desktop to connect to a VM and AVD’s clipboard handling is as unreliable as anything else from Microsoft?

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        13 hours ago

        That’s a sensible theory for when this happens at work (it’s Citrix in my case).

        I’d swear it happens at home on Windows 10 as well, though. Maybe I am pressing it wrong sometimes. Either way, the meme is spot on for me.

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      15 hours ago

      I have unconfirmed theories.

      • My C and V key are literally the most worn keys on my keyboard. The letters are completely worn off, they’re by far my most used keys. That amount of use probably makes the contacts degrade and less reliable.
      • Windows 10 (I think?) introduced a “fancy clipboard” with history and multi paste and generally made it an “app”. In my experience the fancier it is the more failure points, since it’s no longer just a simple OS memory buffer, it has its own application logic.
      • Since it’s a global hotkey, the OS has to:
        • Handle the interrupt
        • Query the currently active window / application for a “copy” output of the currently highlighted context
        • Wait for a response
        • Place that response into a buffer of some sort
        • In a highly volatile asynchronous UI where the user can alt tab at any time, I imagine often what happens is that you just didn’t wait long enough for the data to actually copy. Pressing CTRL+C would be equivalent in reliability as waiting 2 seconds, but it’s more fun to press the button a bunch
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        Thanks, that’s interesting - I hadn’t thought about the window messages responding to update the all clipboard

        It’s odd to me that the paste is almost never the previous clipboard value - it’s basically always null

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      15 hours ago

      Because copy and paste started bring over formatting.

      If you do control shift V, it removes it and is much more reliable.

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        No that’s not what I mean (plus it doesn’t work most of the time, either). It’s the copying that often fails for me, which I only notice when I paste and realize “wait a minute, these are the previous contents of my clipboard.”

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        Nah that’s not at all how that hand movement works. It’s always rest on Ctrl and then find C for me. It would also type “C” over the highlighted text, which would be very noticeable.