Hi everyone,

I recently got offered a job (or not quite yet, but in the process) for a European digital forensics and e-discovery company. The position sounds really fun and exciting and really what I am looking for, but I don’t know if I can reconcile it with my privacy concerns and my moral concerns that we are turning further and further into a surveillance state.

Here are some of the products and companies they are using / working with:

https://cellebrite.com/en/home/

https://www.passware.com/

https://www.milestonesys.com/products/software/briefcam/

And many more similar tools. Do you think I am overreacting? Would you ever consider working for a company like that? It almost feels like a European version of Palantir. When remarking my concerns in the interview, the interviewer was very surprised about that question (which in turn really surprised me…). The “justification” he gave me, to reassure me, did not do a good job either:

  • 95% of their customers are state actors, i.e. national police departmenty. As I said, it’s not the US, so my image of our police is not quite as bad, but still it’s not like I view government agencies , justice system, or the police as the “ultimate good guys” that I trust with everything.
  • “Things like unlocking and searching through some evidence like a phone is not surveillance, since it is not live” - maybe I misunderstood something there because to me that argument makes zero sense

I’m a little torn, because I believe that digital forensics is obviously a very important tool for solving crimes and is clearly already part of reality. But building such powerful tools with access to so many sources of data requires an amount of trust that I currently cannot say I have into any entity really. And that’s ignoring all the AI that all these tools use internally too.

Sorry for the rant, I am just curious what this community thinks about this industry? Even though I can already guess 😉 I’m just having a hard time rejecting a potentially really good job offer.

  • SpaceNoodle
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    12 hours ago

    Not sure about the labor laws where you are. Can you not just leave the job if you take the offer and later decide that you are aggrieved with what’s being done with your work?

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      6 hours ago

      Yeah, just not sure if it’s worth giving up my current position for something that I have big concerns about…

    • testaccount372920@piefed.zip
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      7 hours ago

      It might look bad on your cv to leave a job so soon after starting, it might also require leaving their current job, so even if leaving the job is easy, it could still be a bad decision