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Your blame is misplaced.
Literally 100% of all airlines, both US and EU are required to comply with TSA and European Commission individual EU countries flight security.
Compliance with TSA means allowing TSA to hand over control to ICE whenever they want and there is absolutely nothing a single airline can do about it. If you think they can, then don’t fly ever again.
Compliance to order doesn’t absolve you of blame, though?
I can’t recall anything famous about just following orders.
It sounds like a good original excuse.
Then we’re all to blame because we all comply with the law or risk going to jail and fines.
I feel one issue that is being ignored is we don’t know who from the airline was initially involved and what they were told. What we do know is ICE is notorious for being duplicitous.
While Delta is just another vehicle for the accumulation and concentration of wealth, its employees, the people with whom TSA and ICE directly interface, are largely everyday people like you and I. Without more information, those criticizing the actions of the airline and by extension its employees are doing such based on assumption. They’re likely victims of ICE as well, if to a much lesser degree.
Yeah. Obstructing a federal agent is also a crime. Look at that judge who let someone out a side door instead of getting picked up by ICE. She was arrested and charged.
If it’s in the process of doing something illegal, then yes, you are to blame.
Except that’s the neat part. There is nothing illegal about “airline x do not allow that passenger to board” as an order from TSA that’s entirely legal thing. You have no “right” to fly and TSA has the completely authority to manage passengers. And this isn’t new at all, we’re talking Bush administration
ICE detaining and assaulting a US citizen is entirely illegal though.
Get the f@!% out of here with this sober logic and reasonable context. We are trying to nurture reddit nerd outrage and stupidity here.