As Twitter ditches its iconic branding in favor of owner Elon Musk's favorite letter "X," its open source competitor Mastodon is once again seeing usage numbers soar.
It’s not just lemmy that’s benefiting from Elon Musk.
It won’t last unless Mastadon gets some serious improvements. It’s buggy, glitchy, feature-poor, and confusing to use. There’s no way in its current state it’s going to compete with the big guys for the average person’s attention.
Do you remember the early days of social media? IMHO, as the new hotness I’ve seen a rapid pace of improvements that I honestly expect to ramp up further as more utilization comes. Pure speculation but I’m basing it on my grey beard and the refreshing experience I’m having here.
I mean, they need to ramp it way faster. It’s pretty garbage right now and there’s really no excuse. Compare it to Lemmy and it’s very obvious. Lemmy still has problems, but it’s much easier to use and has way fewer bugs and glitches. If you’re used to Reddit, then switching to Lemmy is pretty easy to do, and I can see average users making that jump. But Mastadon isn’t even close to the user experience that Twitter/X offered, and I cannot see the average Twitter user sticking around and waiting for all the issue to be fixed.
What would you say is missing from the mastodon user experience vs twitter?
Things I would like:
better discovery/suggestions when people first join. I get a “selling point” is that the timeline isn’t algorithmically driven, but just to help people get their feet wet start showing them some stuff
when displaying a post there needs to be a better mechanism to fetch all the replies. Right now it’s possible to respond and say something someone else already did because you you’re not shown their reply. For federation reasons I guess.
better list integration
But overall, for me the functionality I used from twitter I have on mastodon too. The real missing feature is the huge variety of people, and getting that takes time.
I switched from Reddit to Lemmy today and I fully condone your comment. I decided to not use any microblogging service before using mastodon after Twitter. The switch from Reddit to Lemmy was a bliss.
From a user-experience standpoint I’m intrigued by the idea of someone who is comfortable using Lemmy finding Mastodon confusing to use. From a technical view it’s literally the same stuff (ActivityPub + a distributed network) fueling the same general concept (federated social media) just with a different skin on top (Twitter/Tweetdeck-flavored instead of Reddit-flavored.)
It’s all just decentralized online community organized by interest; a /c/ here is a hashtag on Mastodon. If you have already come to terms with instances and federation and such in order to use one, what about the other still confuses? Is it just the interface or are there deeper pain points?
Reddit is the same backend as the Reddit I was using through a third party app a few months ago, but the user experience is significantly worse for me, because the interface I’m accessing the service through adds friction to how I use the service and steers me towards how I don’t use the service. Same with accessing email through a web interface versus Outlook versus Thunderbird versus Alpine versus the iOS Mail app.
Lemmy is how I want to interact with user-generated text and comments. Mastodon’s interface is not. I don’t care that it happens to be ActivityPub on the backend, because the interface drives how I consume and interact with the content.
It won’t last unless Mastadon gets some serious improvements. It’s buggy, glitchy, feature-poor, and confusing to use. There’s no way in its current state it’s going to compete with the big guys for the average person’s attention.
Do you remember the early days of social media? IMHO, as the new hotness I’ve seen a rapid pace of improvements that I honestly expect to ramp up further as more utilization comes. Pure speculation but I’m basing it on my grey beard and the refreshing experience I’m having here.
I mean, they need to ramp it way faster. It’s pretty garbage right now and there’s really no excuse. Compare it to Lemmy and it’s very obvious. Lemmy still has problems, but it’s much easier to use and has way fewer bugs and glitches. If you’re used to Reddit, then switching to Lemmy is pretty easy to do, and I can see average users making that jump. But Mastadon isn’t even close to the user experience that Twitter/X offered, and I cannot see the average Twitter user sticking around and waiting for all the issue to be fixed.
What would you say is missing from the mastodon user experience vs twitter?
Things I would like:
But overall, for me the functionality I used from twitter I have on mastodon too. The real missing feature is the huge variety of people, and getting that takes time.
I switched from Reddit to Lemmy today and I fully condone your comment. I decided to not use any microblogging service before using mastodon after Twitter. The switch from Reddit to Lemmy was a bliss.
From a user-experience standpoint I’m intrigued by the idea of someone who is comfortable using Lemmy finding Mastodon confusing to use. From a technical view it’s literally the same stuff (ActivityPub + a distributed network) fueling the same general concept (federated social media) just with a different skin on top (Twitter/Tweetdeck-flavored instead of Reddit-flavored.)
It’s all just decentralized online community organized by interest; a /c/ here is a hashtag on Mastodon. If you have already come to terms with instances and federation and such in order to use one, what about the other still confuses? Is it just the interface or are there deeper pain points?
“Just the interface” is a big deal.
Reddit is the same backend as the Reddit I was using through a third party app a few months ago, but the user experience is significantly worse for me, because the interface I’m accessing the service through adds friction to how I use the service and steers me towards how I don’t use the service. Same with accessing email through a web interface versus Outlook versus Thunderbird versus Alpine versus the iOS Mail app.
Lemmy is how I want to interact with user-generated text and comments. Mastodon’s interface is not. I don’t care that it happens to be ActivityPub on the backend, because the interface drives how I consume and interact with the content.
Good point! I can see where you’re coming from, thanks for your perspective.
Try out Fedilab if you’re on Android. I’m not by any means a big user of Mastadon, but it really improved my experience over the official app.
I still don’t really “get it” in regards to microblogging platforms, but I do occasionally find interesting things.
I haven’t seen any glitches or bugs for quite a while.
Which ones are you speaking of?
I’ve had no issues on Mastodon.World and the advance features are essentially tweetdeck.