I love watching people get what they deserve. But I worry we’ve created a world where its not possible to change your stance on something or admit you were wrong. Like something from the Art of War that says you shouldn’t surround your enemy completely or they will fight harder since escape isn’t an option. Even if you don’t intend for them to escape, merely thinking they can wont cause them to fight as hard.
I mean yeah but the dude rapes children so he needs to be in prison. The ideal answer would have been for his parents to have raised him better but that ship sailed a long time ago.
Art of War is a little inapplicable here because in that book, there’s an assumption the enemy isn’t out to destroy the whole world, but trump really has no qualms about destroying everything if that’s what it takes for him to keep his freedom despite his horrific crimes.
I’ll say: it really seems like that call is coming from inside the house. Lots of former conservatives can get by in leftist spaces by just not being a conservative when asked about their opinions. If you can laugh at who you used to be you can absolutely be a reformed conservative. Maybe you have to be a few years removed from who you used to be but I’ve seen it, I know people who have gone through exactly that and they’re as left as anyone now. Mostly because being a leftist means engaging with and being in the normal world.
But if you’re in a conservative environment even the smallest dissent can be seen as fully treasonous. It spirals into hysteria and we see how conservatives have to live in an alternate reality to stay in the in-group.
There are definitely those people, along with ones who were actively harmed by Trump when they thought he would only hurt minorities or whatever.
But I think there’s people out there who only vote R cuz their parents do and they’re in a small conservative town in the country.
If people flip from R to D its like a x2 effect. Not only are R’s getting less votes but D’s are getting more. Idk. Maybe everyone is already set in their ways or will switch on their own eventually.
also they are only admitting they were wrong, after they get fucked by the hate policies they thought were only going to be used against brown people.
and they expect to be treated like the actual victims of those policies, and receive care, and concern, and comfort, and support, about the egregious wrongs they suffered, just like they’ve seen the actual victims of these policies get time and time again.
and they don’t get it, because they are the stupid cunts that supported all that shit, voted for all that shit, and still’d be fighting for all that shit if it hadnt suddenly affected them.
Ok thats super fair and I didn’t consider. Like people who wanted ICE until their wife got deported.
It just sucks cuz I’m sure there are decent people who are only conservative and vote that way cuz their parents did and that’s how it’s always been for them. Kind of like religion.
its also the fact that they pretend that they are good, decent, moral, godly people, while literally bending over the table and buttering up their butt holes for people who do the exact opposite that their precious bible says.
Theres a lot of reasons why people are tired of hypocritical republican faux-victims and their constant whinging and demands for support and sympathy.
Yeah… for the most part they just double down. You can point out the war in Iran that they supposedly didn’t want, the deficits they supposedly wanted to reduce, the prices that they thought would go down with tariffs somehow, and they will just say that doesn’t matter because the Democrats were going to turn their boys into girls.
I worry we’ve created a world where its not possible to change your stance on something or admit you were wrong.
Are you kidding? It is comically easy to just change sides, announce you have always believed everything about the side your own, and begin heckling the people on the original side by calling them idiots and assholes. Just roll up another account. Or be Tucker Carlson.
Nobody will care, so long as your caustic remarks and smug self-aggrandizement and self-pitying doomerism jerks your audience off the right way.
Like something from the Art of War that says you shouldn’t surround your enemy completely or they will fight harder since escape isn’t an option.
The problem isn’t that Liberals have somehow backed Conservatives into a corner. The problem is that Conservatives effectively make up a Liberal to be afraid of and regularly sell their voter base on being terrified of the Dark Brandon Ultra-Left Anarcho-Chinese Muslim Tankie hiding behind the milquetoast corporate centrist who agrees with them on 90% of public policy.
When you’ve built a fantasy world for your voters to live in, the best way to keep them there is to tell a bunch of horror stories about what’s outside the echo chamber.
Im not saying liberals have literally backed maga into a corner with no escape. It was just an analogy.
And are you kidding? Are you seeing maga declare themselves liberal in droves? There’s supposed to be a “blue wave” coming for midterms so I guess we’ll wait and see. But if there is a blue wave id think it’s because maga are upset and not going out to support trump, not that they’ve all become liberals.
Im not saying liberals have literally backed maga into a corner with no escape.
I agree. If anything, they’ve done the opposite. The MAGA crowd has received every out, second chance, and pardon legally possible.
Are you seeing maga declare themselves liberal in droves?
Plenty of #NeverTrump Republicans have been piling in to the Liberal Party for over a decade. Then they show up and complain that the party has too many liberals in it.
But if there is a blue wave id think it’s because maga are upset and not going out to support trump, not that they’ve all become liberals.
Years when Trump isn’t on the ballot tend to see depressed GOP turnout.
I love watching people get what they deserve. But I worry we’ve created a world where its not possible to change your stance on something or admit you were wrong. Like something from the Art of War that says you shouldn’t surround your enemy completely or they will fight harder since escape isn’t an option. Even if you don’t intend for them to escape, merely thinking they can wont cause them to fight as hard.
I mean yeah but the dude rapes children so he needs to be in prison. The ideal answer would have been for his parents to have raised him better but that ship sailed a long time ago.
Art of War is a little inapplicable here because in that book, there’s an assumption the enemy isn’t out to destroy the whole world, but trump really has no qualms about destroying everything if that’s what it takes for him to keep his freedom despite his horrific crimes.
This, unfortunately, is the Truth of the situation.
I’ll say: it really seems like that call is coming from inside the house. Lots of former conservatives can get by in leftist spaces by just not being a conservative when asked about their opinions. If you can laugh at who you used to be you can absolutely be a reformed conservative. Maybe you have to be a few years removed from who you used to be but I’ve seen it, I know people who have gone through exactly that and they’re as left as anyone now. Mostly because being a leftist means engaging with and being in the normal world.
But if you’re in a conservative environment even the smallest dissent can be seen as fully treasonous. It spirals into hysteria and we see how conservatives have to live in an alternate reality to stay in the in-group.
But they are not admitting they where wrong… They are complaining Trump didn’t deliver them the riches they where promised.
They are still bigoted assholes.
There are definitely those people, along with ones who were actively harmed by Trump when they thought he would only hurt minorities or whatever.
But I think there’s people out there who only vote R cuz their parents do and they’re in a small conservative town in the country.
If people flip from R to D its like a x2 effect. Not only are R’s getting less votes but D’s are getting more. Idk. Maybe everyone is already set in their ways or will switch on their own eventually.
He also said once committed to an act there is no turning back.
They don’t want to escape, though.
They’re in a prison of their own design.
also they are only admitting they were wrong, after they get fucked by the hate policies they thought were only going to be used against brown people.
and they expect to be treated like the actual victims of those policies, and receive care, and concern, and comfort, and support, about the egregious wrongs they suffered, just like they’ve seen the actual victims of these policies get time and time again.
and they don’t get it, because they are the stupid cunts that supported all that shit, voted for all that shit, and still’d be fighting for all that shit if it hadnt suddenly affected them.
Ok thats super fair and I didn’t consider. Like people who wanted ICE until their wife got deported.
It just sucks cuz I’m sure there are decent people who are only conservative and vote that way cuz their parents did and that’s how it’s always been for them. Kind of like religion.
No. That ship sailed 10 years ago. It’s impossible for any good people to still call themselves Republican.
its also the fact that they pretend that they are good, decent, moral, godly people, while literally bending over the table and buttering up their butt holes for people who do the exact opposite that their precious bible says.
Theres a lot of reasons why people are tired of hypocritical republican faux-victims and their constant whinging and demands for support and sympathy.
Yeah… for the most part they just double down. You can point out the war in Iran that they supposedly didn’t want, the deficits they supposedly wanted to reduce, the prices that they thought would go down with tariffs somehow, and they will just say that doesn’t matter because the Democrats were going to turn their boys into girls.
Are you kidding? It is comically easy to just change sides, announce you have always believed everything about the side your own, and begin heckling the people on the original side by calling them idiots and assholes. Just roll up another account. Or be Tucker Carlson.
Nobody will care, so long as your caustic remarks and smug self-aggrandizement and self-pitying doomerism jerks your audience off the right way.
The problem isn’t that Liberals have somehow backed Conservatives into a corner. The problem is that Conservatives effectively make up a Liberal to be afraid of and regularly sell their voter base on being terrified of the Dark Brandon Ultra-Left Anarcho-Chinese Muslim Tankie hiding behind the milquetoast corporate centrist who agrees with them on 90% of public policy.
When you’ve built a fantasy world for your voters to live in, the best way to keep them there is to tell a bunch of horror stories about what’s outside the echo chamber.
Im not saying liberals have literally backed maga into a corner with no escape. It was just an analogy.
And are you kidding? Are you seeing maga declare themselves liberal in droves? There’s supposed to be a “blue wave” coming for midterms so I guess we’ll wait and see. But if there is a blue wave id think it’s because maga are upset and not going out to support trump, not that they’ve all become liberals.
I agree. If anything, they’ve done the opposite. The MAGA crowd has received every out, second chance, and pardon legally possible.
Plenty of #NeverTrump Republicans have been piling in to the Liberal Party for over a decade. Then they show up and complain that the party has too many liberals in it.
Years when Trump isn’t on the ballot tend to see depressed GOP turnout.