• mrdownBanned
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    1 month ago

    It will not return to the status quo. Iran will continue to control the straight and the west wil lhave to deal with it. The only way to destroy iranians capabilities is a decade long on the ground war and would still probably fail

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      1 month ago

      Depends on the people running Iran dunnit? They could find some way to recover their relative peace and stable oil economy. They’d just have to agree to not attack boats in the straight and not (obviously) work on nuke development. It would be better for them obviously. But now their leader’s justifiably hatred for the U.S. make it unpalatable . But as things continue to get crappier there because of continued war and sanction, eventually they’ll move forward. Of course Trump will likely fuck it up again, but he probably only has two years left.

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        1 month ago

        Sorry but the West Lost.The West will have to accept defeat and that Iran will get revenues from ship passing to the straight.

        Nobody believe the lie about the nukes so I won’t waste my time with that BS

        Between sanctions and between the state collapse, anybody would pick to endure sanctions

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          1 month ago

          Well yes, that could be part of the peace deal - some income for Iran for straight access. I don’t think the U.S. cares about that as long as it’s not exorbitant and everyone has access. And yes the iran government will want to survive which is why they can’t take sanctions forever. I’m not sure what you think was a lie about nukes. Clearly Iran has been developing nuclear tech. The ‘two weeks away’ was probably bs. But in general there is evidence and a pretty clear motive for them to be making nukes.

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            1 month ago

            The control of the straight is the only way stopping the USA to return to full scale war

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              1 month ago

              Well the ability to close the straight is what gives Iran leverage. So any peace deal is implicitly backed by the threat to close the straight if the U.S. gets trigger happy. And similarly, if Iran blocks the straight, the U.S. would drop some more bombs on Iran. I think both side would like to go back to how it was before. But they both have to save face. And not be fucking morons. Which is difficult to arrange.

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                1 month ago

                Well the ability to close the straight is what gives Iran leverage.

                if Iran blocks the straight, the U.S. would drop some more bombs on Iran

                Leverage to not return to full-scale war At worst it will continue to be tit for tat

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                  1 month ago

                  Full scale war is bad for everyone. You can argue who it’s worse for, but comparing dollars to people is pretty disgusting. It’s just bad for everyone. And in this case, peace is better for everyone. So we’ll probably get there eventually. Either that or one side will obliterate the other.

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                    1 month ago

                    Full scale war is bad for Iran , the USA want a full scale war but can’t because Iran control the straight .