• agent_nycto
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    9 days ago

    You blame people for being in a system they did not choose and would have them slain rather than build a new system. How old testament.

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      8 days ago

      Never said that, but it’s a cute straw man.

      I guess it’s easier to imagine everyone who disagrees with mainstream thinking as Hitler when you assume they just want to kill everyone who disagrees with them the way you do.

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        8 days ago

        Oh sorry, you just want to have them institutionalized for the rest of their life for driving a car. Yeah. That’s way better. My b.

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          8 days ago

          I also want them to be the front line fighters when the inevitable wars over clean water start. Which is just a way of saying I don’t think it’s fair that everyone has to suffer the consequences of their stupid, selfish, short-sighted choice.

          So yes, anything that stops them would absolutely be “way better”, but my personal preference would just be to revoke all non-CDL drivers licenses, invalidate all vehicle registrations made out to an individual instead of an organization, then review the rest to see if they are appropriate to continue or not.

          But if the only way to stop the ecocidal narcissists from killing pedestrians and cyclists and degrading the environment was to lock them all up, I consider that less evil than allowing the status quo to continue.

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            8 days ago

            You do realize Nestle, Coca-Cola, and AI Datacenters are a far, far bigger threat to the climate and our water supply than all the world’s drivers combined, yes?

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            7 days ago

            So you’d condemn people to starve to death for your ideals. Either you haven’t thought them through or you’re a sociopath.

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              6 days ago

              Your inability to imagine anything different from the status quo doesn’t mean it would starve people.

              I can’t tell if you’re just too thick to understand a fairly simple concept, or if you’re being disingenuous. Don’t really care, either.

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                6 days ago

                Right now, if we got rid of all cars, people would be stranded in anything outside of major cities, and even in most cities there’s food deserts. Oh and don’t forget all the homeless people who live in their cars, there goes their shelter.

                I mean, we can play make believe with a hypothetical world where cars don’t exist and there’s magical transport that works for individuals as well as groups that is harmless and makes no pollution if you don’t like the “status quo” thinking of things like “real world consequences” and “basic empathy” and “understanding other people’s living situations”, but if you did that you wouldn’t want to institutionalize people just for owning a car to survive.

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                  5 days ago

                  just for owning a car to survive.

                  No one needs a car to survive. A car is a convenience. Humans existed without them for millennia and if they all disappeared tomorrow we’d be just fine after a short period of chaos where we paid the price for a hundred years of batshit stupid infrastructure development.

                  But a bunch of whiny, fat ass, lazy assholes would suddenly have to learn that those funny things in the end of their legs are for more than selling pics of online, and a lot of people would suddenly find that they can’t demand all the conveniences of modernity while trying to live like a hermit. And I know that for a lot of you that sounds so horrible you’d rather believe that you’d die, but you wouldn’t.