• Serinus
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    4 hours ago

    I’m going to have to what? Sounds like I didn’t need to do shit.

    You’re going to have to prove eliminating the Senate is more important than fixing Citizens United or gerrymandering.

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      2 hours ago

      Equal representation is a foundation of democracy.

      The US doesn’t have that. And has never had it. If the foundation is shit, everything else is going to go to shit.

      That includes citizens united and gerrymandering.

      Which it needs to be said is a false dichotomy and all three things can be done simultaneously. It’s as lazy and fucking disingenuous as saying urban and suburban voters can’t vote responsibly for rural decisions but rural voters can vote responsibly for urban decisions.

      Any argument you can make for rural voters receiving more voting power can be echoed right back at you and it’s all a load of bullshit.

      So yeah. You’re absolutely going to have to defend the argument you fucking made when that argument is ultimately to disenfranchise 80% of American voters.

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        1 hour ago

        The Senate is pretty clearly spelled out in the Constitution. Citizens United is a pretty far fetched, liberal interpretation, and gerrymandering isn’t in the Constitution at all.

        Eliminating the Senate is more difficult and not on my priority list, and you haven’t exactly convinced me to support that. It’s a great idea if your goal is to get nothing done.

        I guess we can agree to disagree.