• @TokenBoomer
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    Is this Ukraine’s war, or America’s?

    • @Sirosky
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      621 year ago

      Unnecessarily reductionist/antagonistic. If you had read the article, you would’ve known that the Ukrainians themselves agree with the point. And despite what the title says, the U.S. isn’t the only of Ukrainian’s western partners that thinks a change of strategy in order. This war might be fought primarily by the Ukrainians, but it’s also very clearly a collective responsibility of the western world order.

      • @TokenBoomer
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        The truth will never be reductionist.

        collective responsibility of the western world order.

        ie- capitalist imperialism.

        • @Sirosky
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          501 year ago

          Such a bog-standard whataboutism that I couldn’t even be bothered to roll my eyes anymore. Thanks for showing your true colors.

          • @TokenBoomer
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            -401 year ago

            Your welcome. My colors are red and black.

            • @[email protected]
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              Those colours doesn’t seem to go all the way through though. Scratch them for a moment and you will see the colours of the Russian flag appearing.

              • @TokenBoomer
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                I don’t give an F about Russia. China could swallow it tomorrow. This enemy that liberals have invented doesn’t exist. You make everything a binary choice. Russia or NATO. China or America. The world is more complicated, but you’re not equipped to understand that.

              • @TokenBoomer
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                Yep. I’m against all capitalist imperialism, even China’s. It’s almost like those supporting NATO aren’t really socialists.

                • @[email protected]
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                  I’ve read those people have a thought called “critical support” where they’re critical against NATO but it’s the only logical lifeline for Ukraine and Europe to end the war some day and prevent similar situations.

                  Personally; I guess that’s a theory, who knows 🤷

                  • @TokenBoomer
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                    I’m gonna do my best to communicate my reasoning.

                    1. Socialists are anti capitalist.
                    2. NATO is an arm to preserve capitalism.
                    3. Socialists cannot support NATO. Despite what Vaush says.

                    The “critical support” theory is based on the assumption that nations wouldn’t come to Ukraine’s aid if NATO didn’t exist. Some believe that America and by extension NATO, created the conditions that preceded the conflict. Capitalism tends to create problems that it then has to solve. There was no salient reason for NATO to continue its existence after the fall of the Soviet Union, other than to maintain US hegemony.

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        I’m watching Putin’s speech at the BRICS summit. The economics of the world is about to change and the American government is about to shutdown. Ukraine is about to be the least of America’s worries.

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          I’m watching Purim’s speech at the BRICS summit. The economics of the world is about to change and the American government is about to shutdown. Ukraine is about to be the least of America’s worries.

          Also, he’s dating a supermodel, you wouldn’t know her, she goes to school in Canada.

            • @[email protected]
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              I give you credit for bravery, my friend, I wouldn’t be anywhere near where you are without satellites broadcasting /s around me.

              • @TokenBoomer
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                01 year ago

                People take life too seriously. Someone posting today on here will probably bite it before tomorrow. We should enjoy each other while we have the chance.

          • @TokenBoomer
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            The world bank? Now add the other 40 countries that want to join including Saudi Arabia. When the petrodollar goes, so will that GDP.

            • morry040
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              Ok - here’s what it looks like if you were to group the GDP of each country into regions. If we group all of the regular trading partners and allies into “The West”, they comprise 58% of global GDP. BRICS and the 137 other countries would be 41%.
              https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/

              • @TokenBoomer
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                I didn’t know that GDP is constant and can’t change. Surely nothing will change in the future. The PetroYuan is definitely not a possibility if Saudi Arabia joins BRICS. And that definitely won’t hurt America’s economy, reducing it’s GDP. America will always dominate the world. /s

        • The dogspaw
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          I wish American soldiers were in ukraine to roll up this war and save lives

          • @TokenBoomer
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            -121 year ago

            That could lead to WW3. Just hope that Russia destabilizes and Putin expires.

            • @[email protected]
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              Fortunately or unfortunately, a destabilized Russia would not be safer for the world than a stable Russia.

            • @[email protected]
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              Well, to be precise, it could lead to war with Russia. I doubt that would spill over to the whole world.

              That prospect is terrifying enough given Russia’s nuclear weapons, so I’m definitely not arguing that “this is fine”.

              I just think we need to be precise. Russia is not the Soviet Union - they don’t have 50 proxy states around the world.

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              That could lead to WW3.

              Only very briefly.

              You have to leave the precedent that the peace of Europe will be preserved, that’s how we made it the last 80 years without a world war.