Thing is there are so few things to count against Windows compared to MacOS or Linux, they need to make the most minor of inconveniences seem astronomical by comparison. “Haha you have to install a security update you can delay for 5 weeks that takes 4 seconds to install”
It’s the “you can delay” bit. It’s MY machine. If I don’t want the update so be it. I get the windows os is a liscence not a purchase, so they have every right. That doesn’t mean I have to like it, and I’m happy there are alternatives. That permeates through the whole OS. If theres software I don’t want, just because I don’t like the name, I can remove it.
That might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people. Enough, in fact, to build an maintain multiple operating systems, as it turns out.
If your fine want updates you can literally just… Duane them through group policy. But that’s not a good idea. What they are forcing are security updates. You really want those. They don’t take very long at all and their effectiveness increases based on how many people are up to date. The more people who are up to date the more difficult and expensive it is to create malicious software, it also becomes more difficult to spread malicious software to begin with.
That sounds very much more convoluted than what I’m doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I’ll stick to linux thanks.
What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can’t do that a usual usuer.
So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I’m out.
In January of last year MS put out a kb that would repeatedly reboot your machine if it was an active directory controller, or if it was a hyper-v host it would refuse to turn on VMs, if you were running 2012 R2.
Not only this is bullshit for a production os (like this is 5 minutes of testing, come on), it took them several months to put out a corrective KB. In the mean time, all you could do was not install it and try to uninstall it on hosts that would reboot repeatedly. It’s windows server so it doesn’t nag you for updates but still.
Nowadays especially so. It’s like Android vs iOS. Both OSes are good and now so are Windows, Linux and macOS. Use whatever you prefer, just know how to use it so you don’t blow up non-issues.
Amateur. My dev laptop restarts about 1.5 times per Windows update, my gaming desktop restarts a couple times a year
It makes you more in touch with the universe. With runtimes lasting months, you get to see how cosmic rays cause new and unexpected “features”. I’ve started to look up solar weather when things start to act extra weird, and it actually lines up
The most impressive is a windows machine with 13 days of uptime
I have 3 windows machines in my house that are over 50 days running right now
It’s also an unimportant stat considering that any modern, well configured Windows machine should have reboot times of under a minute.
Thing is there are so few things to count against Windows compared to MacOS or Linux, they need to make the most minor of inconveniences seem astronomical by comparison. “Haha you have to install a security update you can delay for 5 weeks that takes 4 seconds to install”
It’s the “you can delay” bit. It’s MY machine. If I don’t want the update so be it. I get the windows os is a liscence not a purchase, so they have every right. That doesn’t mean I have to like it, and I’m happy there are alternatives. That permeates through the whole OS. If theres software I don’t want, just because I don’t like the name, I can remove it.
That might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people. Enough, in fact, to build an maintain multiple operating systems, as it turns out.
If your fine want updates you can literally just… Duane them through group policy. But that’s not a good idea. What they are forcing are security updates. You really want those. They don’t take very long at all and their effectiveness increases based on how many people are up to date. The more people who are up to date the more difficult and expensive it is to create malicious software, it also becomes more difficult to spread malicious software to begin with.
That sounds very much more convoluted than what I’m doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I’ll stick to linux thanks.
What?
What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can’t do that a usual usuer.
So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I’m out.
Windows updates are particularly under-tested
In January of last year MS put out a kb that would repeatedly reboot your machine if it was an active directory controller, or if it was a hyper-v host it would refuse to turn on VMs, if you were running 2012 R2.
Not only this is bullshit for a production os (like this is 5 minutes of testing, come on), it took them several months to put out a corrective KB. In the mean time, all you could do was not install it and try to uninstall it on hosts that would reboot repeatedly. It’s windows server so it doesn’t nag you for updates but still.
Nowadays especially so. It’s like Android vs iOS. Both OSes are good and now so are Windows, Linux and macOS. Use whatever you prefer, just know how to use it so you don’t blow up non-issues.
I’m not sure if you’re joking or being serious. Long uptimes are not an issue anymore on Windows.
Except occasionally when you factor in the automatic forced updates and resulting required reboots.
I haven’t had that since like xp or vista days. Just told it to do it when I ask and it always does.
You can turn those off with the pro version.
Lol… I’ve worked in IT for over 25 years… I’m aware.
So you do know that isn’t a problem then…
It’s absolutely a problem… For some people.
tbf I regularly have an uptime of 14+ minutes on my gaming rig.
Amateur. My dev laptop restarts about 1.5 times per Windows update, my gaming desktop restarts a couple times a year
It makes you more in touch with the universe. With runtimes lasting months, you get to see how cosmic rays cause new and unexpected “features”. I’ve started to look up solar weather when things start to act extra weird, and it actually lines up
Quite normal for a laptop, since it can use Windows Modern Standby (if it works)
Hibernation baby!
I recently took down a Windows server for a reboot at 1300 days uptime
It hadn’t been updated in 3.5 years? And the UPS (I’m assuming it had one) battery lasted that long too?
Remarkably common for more Exchange or AD servers then you’d be comfortable knowing about
I’m at 15 on my Minecraft server now, but I’m pretty sure the last restart was intentional also
Sleep, Data.
I once saw a computer at my workplace with over a year of uptime…