Pope Francis condemned the "very strong, organised, reactionary attitude" in the US church and said Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Pope Francis condemned the “very strong, organised, reactionary attitude” in the US church and said Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the US Catholic Church, saying they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Francis’ comments were an acknowledgment of the divisions in the US Catholic Church, which has been split between progressives and conservatives who long found support in the doctrinaire papacies of St John Paul II and Benedict XVI, particularly on issues of abortion and same-sex marriage.

  • @dragontamer
    1•1 year ago

    No no no.

    I mean I’ve noticed an uptick in Evangelicals properly converting into Catholicism recently. And simultaneously, a sudden surge in people wanting “Latin Mass” and other such very old traditions. Definitely a yearning for “traditional” Religion, and (former) Evangelicals seeking Catholicism because of it.

    This is absolutely a “Church” issue because it relates to the religious+political views of our relatively fresh converts (well, within the past couple of decades).

    • @givesomefucks
      5•1 year ago

      And simultaneously, a sudden surge in people wanting “Latin Mass” and other such very old traditions.

      That’s an AstroTurf movement by conservative priests who want to be able to read the bible, no one understands what they said, then they go on a personal rant and telling them what to think and how to vote…

      Mostly because they’re upset the Pope is (relatively) progressive for a pope

    • @dhork
      2•1 year ago

      Well, I’ll have to look into this a bit more. I’m quite aware of the Traditionalists, but didn’t realize they were pulling Evangelicals in, somehow.

      • @dragontamer
        1•1 year ago

        It could just be biases in my social group. But I feel like the Traditionalists are doing big with the Evangelical crowd and doing a good job converting them to Catholicism. For better or for worse.

        With regards to Church Politics: this means that Traditionalists are the ones bringing in the new RCIA year-after-year. Meanwhile, the liberal wing tends to lose out to Atheists. You gotta think in terms of Church politics, evangelicalism and such to see why this is a problem. It means that Traditionalists are very much slated to gain tons of (within-the-church) power, given the current situation.

        I definitely think this is bad for the Church overall, though I’m unsure what to make of it or what to do about it.