• gabe [he/him]
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    I mean, they are correct and a majority of other lemmy admins would agree with that statement.

      • gabe [he/him]
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        Nope, they are being paid now. They receive an immense amount of donations now, enough to likely make a solid monthly income. Take a look at their liberapay page if you don’t believe me. I understand that to a degree, but it only goes so far. When they are actively ignoring safety features despite its urgency in spite of that fact is difficult to justify.

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          Take a look at their liberapay page if you don’t believe me.

          I took a look. “Lemmy receives US$392.03 per week from 287 patrons.”

          enough to likely make a solid monthly income.

          Approximately $850 per month each. Is that a solid income? Lots of developers are making $850 per day!

          When they are actively ignoring safety features

          The license agreement clearly places this onus on the instance operators. If they cannot commit to those terms, why did they accept the agreement? It is not like someone holds a gun to your back and forces you to start a Lemmy instance.

          • gabe [he/him]
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            I’m sorry for not being more focused on being nicer to the devs of lemmy after problems that were discussed nearly a month ago being ignored have caused me and other instance admins to have to deal with the stress of dealing with CSAM federating into our instances and having to witness that content in order to remove it.

            That is sarcasm by the way. In comparison to how I actually feel currently, I could be a lot more indignant about this but I am fighting that urge as it is not productive.

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              Nothing cares whether you present yourself as being nice or not. Information has no feelings.

              But the Lemmy devs clearly pushed that responsibility downstream under the contractual terms of using the software. Maybe that made the agreement a bad deal, but nobody else had to ever agree to the bad terms. It seems you did agree to it. Why?

              What the contract also allowed, however, was the ability for you to modify the software as you see fit. That part is a good deal. It seems the solution is staring you right in the face. Since you’re already committed, why spend your typing here and not in your favourite code editor?

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            They also get funding from a dutch organisation

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            850/day? That’s crack smoking money. Where do I sign up for this?!

            For the record that’s sarcasm and the comment is bullshit. The average salary for a developer in the USA is 140,000$, https://www.salary.com/research/salary/listing/senior-software-developer-salary

            The comment’s math would mean developers are making roughly 306,000/year. More than double the actual average.

            In fairness, 392.03 a week averages out to 18,817.44 which is also not in that range.

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              The comment’s math would mean developers are making roughly 306,000/year.

              Yes, developers at places like Google are making that much. Not the average developer, but nobody said the average developer.

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                Correct no one did, you however said “lots of developers” even if you added up all of developers at the FAANG companies you still would not have an appreciable percentage of the developers in the US workforce let alone the world. So no. Not lots of developers. A very small few. Truthfully probably even fewer than that because not even Google wants to pay 300k per developer only to qualified/experienced developers.

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                  if you added up all of developers at the FAANG companies you still would not have an appreciable percentage of the developers in the US workforce let alone the world.

                  Hmm. I’ve never taken “lots” to be a proportional term before. The dictionary uses “a lot of people at the gala last night” as an example of how “lots” is often used.

                  What kind of gala is attended by an appreciable percentage of the world’s population? Words can mean whatever want them to mean, of course, but in terms of common usage, surely it implies something like hundreds of people at best?

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                I did 850 x 30 x 12 usual salary math. But I was also sleep deprived so perhaps not the best choice.

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          https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/blob/main/LICENSE

          The software provided as is. Period. They never agreed to be support boys for someone, and the amount of work doesn’t really correlate to the amount of money they get from donations unless they both live in a third world country.

          https://jacobtomlinson.dev/posts/2022/dont-be-that-open-source-user-dont-be-me/

          It’s just a matter of not being entitled, that’s it. All I’m asking for is so that people would be more polite to FOSS devs. If they stop doing their work right now what are you going to do? Implement the mod tools yourself? Then go ahead.

          • gabe [he/him]
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            I’m sorry, but I have difficulty being polite to someone who has actively ignored addressing safety concerns that were brought up months ago. FOSS or not.

            • @[email protected]
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              Stop misconstruing it as safety. It’s about legality. Nobody’s safety is in jeopardy because they saw an illegal image accidentally. This is about following the law, not protecting the safety of users.

              • @toasteecup
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                nobody’s safety is in jeopardy

                You know, except for those abuse victims whose pictures are being spread around lemmy. Just sayin’

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                  I thought it was pretty apparent we were talking about Lemmy, but okay.

                  The statements were about the Lemmy devs can and/or should be doing for safety. They simply do not have the power to stop child abuse by developing a social media platform. So then the safety in question must be the safety of people using Lemmy, because the Lemmy devs have some direct power over that.

                  I’m sure you feel very morally aloof with your righteous retort, though.

              • gabe [he/him]
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                111 year ago

                It ties into safety as well, websites have “trust and safety” teams. This is where it falls under. Sorry for not being more concise.

            • gabe [he/him]
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              Absolutely. It’s already worked on some instances as well. It’s upsetting.