• queermunist she/her
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            -61 year ago

            Thoughts don’t form in a vacuum. They are the product of the underlying material conditions, produced by the intellectual labor of the army of propagandists that work in the fossil fuel industry, the meat industry, the ethanol industry, etc. You’re putting the cart before the horse.

            Thoughts matter, but they are a symptom of deeper structural problems that prevent reform. Combating bad ideas only treats a symptom.

            • @neanderthal
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              21 year ago

              You’re putting the cart before the horse.

              I really don’t understand what you mean by this.

              So are you giving up?

              • queermunist she/her
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                -61 year ago

                You’re saying that bad thinking is blocking reform.

                I’m saying it is a result of reform being blocked.

                • @neanderthal
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                  11 year ago

                  I’m saying bad thinking guarantees defeat, and that this isn’t over yet.

                  Look at the Kansas abortion ballot initiative debacle. I’d wager that the climate deniers and anti abortion people are largely the same group. That election shows that they can be beaten and probably have more people on our side than they do. I.e. we are the proverbial elephant tied up with a string.

                  • queermunist she/her
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                    -61 year ago

                    That election shows they can be beaten, it doesn’t show the power of positive thinking. That’s still putting the cart before the horse.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          Thoughts lead to actions, of which inaction based on defeatist ideas literally encouraged by the fossil fuels industries is included.

          • queermunist she/her
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            -71 year ago

            This is literally idealism; the theory that political action comes from ideas.

            Ideas matter, but they can only reinforce the structural and material base.